Need help finding specific wheel setup
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Need help finding specific wheel setup
Before anyone gets on their high horse and jumps down my throat about not searching/reading the threads, let me say the following. I did search this section (wheels, tires, brakes & suspension) with several different combinations of what I'm looking for and couldn't find anything. Also there are over 200 pages in this section and it would take me years to read them all. If there is already a thread about this, I apologize in advance and would ask that someone just kindly point me to it.
Now also before people want to knock my choice in what I want to do with my wheels, let me say that I've read the stickies and I know offset wheels are not necessarily better and that there are plenty of people on here who aren't going to like my setup and are going to have opinions about what I SHOULD do. Please don't offer up alternate suggestions or tell me I'm stupid for wanting what I want. It's my money and if I want to spend it unwisely, just let me and laugh at me when you see me driving by.
Now that that's out of the way, let's get to the question. I want to have front wheels that are either flush or have a small lip with the rear wheels being deep dish and are offset by an inch or so from the front (and possibly bigger by an inch) so maybe like 18x9 front and 19x10 rear. While it's not terribly hard to mix and match the same wheel (i.e. instead of getting a set of 4, just get 2 of the first size and 2 of the second size), they're either all deep dish or none. I want to have the same style up front as in the rear, just with the rear being deep dish and the front not. Anyone know a site I can go to and find this? Thanks in advance for your help.
Now also before people want to knock my choice in what I want to do with my wheels, let me say that I've read the stickies and I know offset wheels are not necessarily better and that there are plenty of people on here who aren't going to like my setup and are going to have opinions about what I SHOULD do. Please don't offer up alternate suggestions or tell me I'm stupid for wanting what I want. It's my money and if I want to spend it unwisely, just let me and laugh at me when you see me driving by.
Now that that's out of the way, let's get to the question. I want to have front wheels that are either flush or have a small lip with the rear wheels being deep dish and are offset by an inch or so from the front (and possibly bigger by an inch) so maybe like 18x9 front and 19x10 rear. While it's not terribly hard to mix and match the same wheel (i.e. instead of getting a set of 4, just get 2 of the first size and 2 of the second size), they're either all deep dish or none. I want to have the same style up front as in the rear, just with the rear being deep dish and the front not. Anyone know a site I can go to and find this? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Gee, I never thought to try there....
Wow, real helpful. Thanks so much.
The two of you obviously didn't read what I was asking. I'm asking for rims that aren't just offset, they're DIFFERENT in the front and the back. I want the front rim to be flush with the rear rim being deep dish. Show me one of these "any rim shop on the planet dot coms" that has that and I'll be eternally grateful. Since I've checked a dozen or so though, I can tell you that not ANY rim shop on the planet has that option.
For everyone else, if you actually want to be helpful and not be a dick that would be super. Trust me, I didn't just get this idea in my head one day and say "hmmmm... let me just start by posting on the forum and expose myself to ridicule". I have done my research and have done a ton of searches, as I mentioned. I have exhausted MY resources so I was hoping to tap into the community's. Please, if you're going to reply, don't be a troll, be helpful. Thanks.
Wow, real helpful. Thanks so much.
The two of you obviously didn't read what I was asking. I'm asking for rims that aren't just offset, they're DIFFERENT in the front and the back. I want the front rim to be flush with the rear rim being deep dish. Show me one of these "any rim shop on the planet dot coms" that has that and I'll be eternally grateful. Since I've checked a dozen or so though, I can tell you that not ANY rim shop on the planet has that option.
For everyone else, if you actually want to be helpful and not be a dick that would be super. Trust me, I didn't just get this idea in my head one day and say "hmmmm... let me just start by posting on the forum and expose myself to ridicule". I have done my research and have done a ton of searches, as I mentioned. I have exhausted MY resources so I was hoping to tap into the community's. Please, if you're going to reply, don't be a troll, be helpful. Thanks.
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What are you asking for?
Do you want pics of this setup?
Are asking for wheel suggestions?
Are you asking where to buy them?
Do you want two different styles front and rear, as in two completely different wheels?
Do you know that what you want is just called a staggered setup?
Two different style wheels is completely stupid. Don't do it.
anywhere that sells wheels can sell you a staggered setup. Just ask them. Sometimes it's just the wheel width and other times its the offset (not sure that you actually know what that means) or a combination of both that gives you more lip.
What you're looking for isn't rocket science. It's just a simple setup that will take a couple phone calls to find what you want.
You're getting **** because you wrote a paragraph saying that you searched and have done research and then explained in about 150 too many words that you want a staggered setup.
If you had done any research at all, not only here or elsewhere, you'd see that the first two suggestions are actually helpful.
Do you want pics of this setup?
Are asking for wheel suggestions?
Are you asking where to buy them?
Do you want two different styles front and rear, as in two completely different wheels?
Do you know that what you want is just called a staggered setup?
Two different style wheels is completely stupid. Don't do it.
anywhere that sells wheels can sell you a staggered setup. Just ask them. Sometimes it's just the wheel width and other times its the offset (not sure that you actually know what that means) or a combination of both that gives you more lip.
What you're looking for isn't rocket science. It's just a simple setup that will take a couple phone calls to find what you want.
You're getting **** because you wrote a paragraph saying that you searched and have done research and then explained in about 150 too many words that you want a staggered setup.
If you had done any research at all, not only here or elsewhere, you'd see that the first two suggestions are actually helpful.
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Wouldn't just a different offset do this?? Same wheel but a lower offset in the rear? +45 in front and +30ish in the rear?
P.S if you have traction control I wouldn't go with different diameter rims. The car will see the different wheel speeds and turn it off. Unless you go with a thicker sidewall up front but that'll look stupid.
Performance wise staggered is a bad idea.
P.S if you have traction control I wouldn't go with different diameter rims. The car will see the different wheel speeds and turn it off. Unless you go with a thicker sidewall up front but that'll look stupid.
Performance wise staggered is a bad idea.
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Wouldn't just a different offset do this?? Same wheel but a lower offset in the rear? +45 in front and +30ish in the rear?
P.S if you have traction control I wouldn't go with different diameter rims. The car will see the different wheel speeds and turn it off. Unless you go with a thicker sidewall up front but that'll look stupid.
Performance wise staggered is a bad idea.
P.S if you have traction control I wouldn't go with different diameter rims. The car will see the different wheel speeds and turn it off. Unless you go with a thicker sidewall up front but that'll look stupid.
Performance wise staggered is a bad idea.
This is the longest way of asking a simple question I've ever seen. It's a wide open question at that no one can answer because we all have different tastes, styles, budgets, and concerns.
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I said in my first post I'm looking for a site where I can find what I described
If you have some, sure why not, but I just want to know where to find it
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No, I specifically said that I didn't
It's not, a staggered setup is just wider wheels in the back. While I DO want a staggered setup, that's not really what my question is about. You could have FLUSH wheels up front with DEEP DISH wheels in the back that have the SAME offset.
I don't plan to
Again, I'm not looking for JUST a staggered setup. Yes I've seen plenty of wheels that come as a set staggered and even ignoring that, I could just get 2 of the wheel in one size in the front and then 2 more wider size for the rear. I UNDERSTAND THAT. Not to mention I'm not talking about the tire sticking out from under the car, I'm talking about the distance from the edge of the wheel to the start of the spokes or whatever
You're right, what I'm looking for isn't rocket science, but apparently it IS rocket science to read wtf I posted
And you're either an asshat who can't take the time to read wtf I am asking, or are too stupid to comprehend it. Throw offset out the f'in window. Pretend I didn't ask about that at all, since apparently that's all you can see I asked about, though that wasn't even the focus of it. I'm going to make it REAL simple. I'm looking for a place that sells RIM-X in 18x9 ALL AROUND (technically that's not exactly it, but I'm going to break it down Crayola style since you can't get it otherwise). I want all rims to have the SAME spoke pattern/color but I want the FRONT wheels to have the spokes FLUSH with the tire while the REAR wheels will have a 3-4 inch lip into the wheel before the spokes start making them DEEP DISH wheels. IF ANYONE knows where I can find that, just f'in tell me. Other wise keep your f'in smart *** comments to yourself. Thank you
If you have some, sure why not, but I just want to know where to find it
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It's not, a staggered setup is just wider wheels in the back. While I DO want a staggered setup, that's not really what my question is about. You could have FLUSH wheels up front with DEEP DISH wheels in the back that have the SAME offset.
I don't plan to
You're getting **** because you wrote a paragraph saying that you searched and have done research and then explained in about 150 too many words that you want a staggered setup.
If you had done any research at all, not only here or elsewhere, you'd see that the first two suggestions are actually helpful.
If you had done any research at all, not only here or elsewhere, you'd see that the first two suggestions are actually helpful.
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It would depend on the wheel. Some wheels look the same in different offsets, some look the same at different widths, and some change with different offsets and/or widths.
This is the longest way of asking a simple question I've ever seen. It's a wide open question at that no one can answer because we all have different tastes, styles, budgets, and concerns.
This is the longest way of asking a simple question I've ever seen. It's a wide open question at that no one can answer because we all have different tastes, styles, budgets, and concerns.
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Yeah I probably put too many variables in my first post and should have JUST said "flush in front deep dish in rear". I'll try those two places. Thanks for trying to actually help.
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I said in my first post I'm looking for a site where I can find what I described
If you have some, sure why not, but I just want to know where to find it
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No, I specifically said that I didn't
It's not, a staggered setup is just wider wheels in the back. While I DO want a staggered setup, that's not really what my question is about. You could have FLUSH wheels up front with DEEP DISH wheels in the back that have the SAME offset.
I don't plan to
Again, I'm not looking for JUST a staggered setup. Yes I've seen plenty of wheels that come as a set staggered and even ignoring that, I could just get 2 of the wheel in one size in the front and then 2 more wider size for the rear. I UNDERSTAND THAT. Not to mention I'm not talking about the tire sticking out from under the car, I'm talking about the distance from the edge of the wheel to the start of the spokes or whatever
You're right, what I'm looking for isn't rocket science, but apparently it IS rocket science to read wtf I posted
And you're either an asshat who can't take the time to read wtf I am asking, or are too stupid to comprehend it. Throw offset out the f'in window. Pretend I didn't ask about that at all, since apparently that's all you can see I asked about, though that wasn't even the focus of it. I'm going to make it REAL simple. I'm looking for a place that sells RIM-X in 18x9 ALL AROUND (technically that's not exactly it, but I'm going to break it down Crayola style since you can't get it otherwise). I want all rims to have the SAME spoke pattern/color but I want the FRONT wheels to have the spokes FLUSH with the tire while the REAR wheels will have a 3-4 inch lip into the wheel before the spokes start making them DEEP DISH wheels. IF ANYONE knows where I can find that, just f'in tell me. Other wise keep your f'in smart *** comments to yourself. Thank you
If you have some, sure why not, but I just want to know where to find it
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No, I specifically said that I didn't
It's not, a staggered setup is just wider wheels in the back. While I DO want a staggered setup, that's not really what my question is about. You could have FLUSH wheels up front with DEEP DISH wheels in the back that have the SAME offset.
I don't plan to
Again, I'm not looking for JUST a staggered setup. Yes I've seen plenty of wheels that come as a set staggered and even ignoring that, I could just get 2 of the wheel in one size in the front and then 2 more wider size for the rear. I UNDERSTAND THAT. Not to mention I'm not talking about the tire sticking out from under the car, I'm talking about the distance from the edge of the wheel to the start of the spokes or whatever
You're right, what I'm looking for isn't rocket science, but apparently it IS rocket science to read wtf I posted
And you're either an asshat who can't take the time to read wtf I am asking, or are too stupid to comprehend it. Throw offset out the f'in window. Pretend I didn't ask about that at all, since apparently that's all you can see I asked about, though that wasn't even the focus of it. I'm going to make it REAL simple. I'm looking for a place that sells RIM-X in 18x9 ALL AROUND (technically that's not exactly it, but I'm going to break it down Crayola style since you can't get it otherwise). I want all rims to have the SAME spoke pattern/color but I want the FRONT wheels to have the spokes FLUSH with the tire while the REAR wheels will have a 3-4 inch lip into the wheel before the spokes start making them DEEP DISH wheels. IF ANYONE knows where I can find that, just f'in tell me. Other wise keep your f'in smart *** comments to yourself. Thank you
You're an idiot. period.
Now that you've clarified that and what you're looking for, you want to buy a wheel that is offered with a lip and without. This would be a wheel that bases the size of the lip off of offset alone. If you want 18x9 all around you'd want something with a higher positive ie. +40 in the front and a lower offset in the rear ie. +20 to give you more lip. Check the vendors on our site, the places BSE mentioned, tire rack, or any other wheel seller. You'll probably have to call so they can hold your hand and explain to you how it works and what wheels will offer you the look you're going for. You're making it far too difficult on yourself. Yelling at everyone in your thread helps though.
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http://www.worksconcepts.com/gram_li...e/g-59834.aspx
and these in back:
http://www.worksconcepts.com/gram_li...o/g-59837.aspx
They do have a different offset, but again, you CAN have wheels that have the same offset that have that effect
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You're an idiot. period.
Now that you've clarified that and what you're looking for, you want to buy a wheel that is offered with a lip and without. This would be a wheel that bases the size of the lip off of offset alone. If you want 18x9 all around you'd want something with a higher positive ie. +40 in the front and a lower offset in the rear ie. +20 to give you more lip. Check the vendors on our site, the places BSE mentioned, tire rack, or any other wheel seller. You'll probably have to call so they can hold your hand and explain to you how it works and what wheels will offer you the look you're going for. You're making it far too difficult on yourself. Yelling at everyone in your thread helps though.
Now that you've clarified that and what you're looking for, you want to buy a wheel that is offered with a lip and without. This would be a wheel that bases the size of the lip off of offset alone. If you want 18x9 all around you'd want something with a higher positive ie. +40 in the front and a lower offset in the rear ie. +20 to give you more lip. Check the vendors on our site, the places BSE mentioned, tire rack, or any other wheel seller. You'll probably have to call so they can hold your hand and explain to you how it works and what wheels will offer you the look you're going for. You're making it far too difficult on yourself. Yelling at everyone in your thread helps though.
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you know that those are basically two different models right?
looks like the only difference is the titanium finish lip, but still two different models which is one of the things you said you didn't want.
looks like the only difference is the titanium finish lip, but still two different models which is one of the things you said you didn't want.
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*sigh* they're TECHNICALLY two different models, but one is the 57 Accelerate and the other is the 57 Accelerate Pro. The only difference is the lip. They look exactly the same other wise. I'm not real concerned with the SKU as long as they look like the same wheel. I'm guessing you're going to tell me they look nothing alike though.
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No, i was just pointing out that they're different wheels. Be careful of the center caps. Gram Lights like to use different centers between Pro and non-Pro lines sometimes. I'm currently trying to find replacements for mine.
I'm not trolling you. I was trying to understand what you want and you weren't making it easy and attacking other posters. If i wanted to troll you, i'd fill your thread with stupid pictures.
I'm not trolling you. I was trying to understand what you want and you weren't making it easy and attacking other posters. If i wanted to troll you, i'd fill your thread with stupid pictures.
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No, i was just pointing out that they're different wheels. Be careful of the center caps. Gram Lights like to use different centers between Pro and non-Pro lines sometimes. I'm currently trying to find replacements for mine.
I'm not trolling you. I was trying to understand what you want and you weren't making it easy and attacking other posters. If i wanted to troll you, i'd fill your thread with stupid pictures.
I'm not trolling you. I was trying to understand what you want and you weren't making it easy and attacking other posters. If i wanted to troll you, i'd fill your thread with stupid pictures.
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They have plenty that will fit. Your ride height would and willingness to roll fenders would dictate which ones and how they would look. It's probably worth calling them. Those guys and RavSpec are knowledgeable and can help with fitment questions. You don't have to stay at 18x8 +50 like the stock wheels are by any means
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They have plenty that will fit. Your ride height would and willingness to roll fenders would dictate which ones and how they would look. It's probably worth calling them. Those guys and RavSpec are knowledgeable and can help with fitment questions. You don't have to stay at 18x8 +50 like the stock wheels are by any means
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lol - this thread =
imo -
- don't be afraid to run different offsets on the front n' rear. If you did what i did n' actually measured...you'll find that the wheel well spacing in slightly different in the rear. This should not throw off much in regards to performance unless you run like +50 in front n' +15 in the rear.
- What may help you in your search for wheels would be to consider the "face". Many different wheels (primarily multi-piece wheels) come in different faces. The offsets can remain the same but you can have the option of a different face or lip size. AME does this with their circlar spec r. It's completely dependent on the manufacturer as Fuz said. More searching you must do if you're to find an ideal wheel. Google search won't help you much unless you know exactly what you're looking for...
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- never throw OFFSET out of any equation that has to do with wheel fitment or appearance. Offset = life...yes it's that important. Many companies only provide different faces or lip appearances depending on the offset. Volk ce28's have a different lip size depending on offset n' width. This will also play a vital roll in overall fitment.
imo -
- don't be afraid to run different offsets on the front n' rear. If you did what i did n' actually measured...you'll find that the wheel well spacing in slightly different in the rear. This should not throw off much in regards to performance unless you run like +50 in front n' +15 in the rear.
- What may help you in your search for wheels would be to consider the "face". Many different wheels (primarily multi-piece wheels) come in different faces. The offsets can remain the same but you can have the option of a different face or lip size. AME does this with their circlar spec r. It's completely dependent on the manufacturer as Fuz said. More searching you must do if you're to find an ideal wheel. Google search won't help you much unless you know exactly what you're looking for...
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- never throw OFFSET out of any equation that has to do with wheel fitment or appearance. Offset = life...yes it's that important. Many companies only provide different faces or lip appearances depending on the offset. Volk ce28's have a different lip size depending on offset n' width. This will also play a vital roll in overall fitment.
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- never throw OFFSET out of any equation that has to do with wheel fitment or appearance. Offset = life...yes it's that important. Many companies only provide different faces or lip appearances depending on the offset. Volk ce28's have a different lip size depending on offset n' width. This will also play a vital roll in overall fitment.
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You're and *******. I wish you would come into my shop with the attitude you have given these people so I could have the satisfaction of throwing you out.
Ever heard of "don't bite the hand the feeds you"? You're lucky you're getting any help at all.
Ever heard of "don't bite the hand the feeds you"? You're lucky you're getting any help at all.