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Old 04-14-2006, 10:00 AM
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Either upgrade the shocks only with stock springs or change both.
Coilover rules coz drift king said so...
Old 04-14-2006, 12:40 PM
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Yeah, my bad on the mispellings, typing too fast.

I think the post was was geared for the guy (6th gate) that wants his car lowered (primarily just for looks, didn't say much about wanting track peroformance). Unfortunately to go past 1.4" involves something a bit more extensive than a set of springs. Like the setups that takahashi recommends
Old 04-14-2006, 05:49 PM
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first off does hks have an electronic damper adjustment device like the edfc

and secondly, no one really answered my question. you just stated facts that i already know, i know about edfc and like takahashi said, the edfc doesn't adjust hieght, only stiffness of the shock and only on perticullar tien coilovers (i have them on my celica with superstreet coilovers.)
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soi'll try again:

should i just get some ground control coilovers and put them on stock shocks or should i splurge and get the tien basic set up and either way wait till later on to get the coilovers, OR sit on the tien s-techs for now and save up for the tien flex coilovers or a similarlly priced setup.
Old 04-14-2006, 06:07 PM
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forget every thing just save up and get a good set of coilover, because you need to do alignment every time you change suspension setup. just save up get the coilovers, and after that you need to set the height, alignment and corner weight it.
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You want your car to handle better? Learn to drive. All the suspension in the world won't make your car faster at the track. I'd bet there are quite a few drivers her who'd smoke even the best-coil-over-equipped RX8 in their stock rx8.

How many of you with aftermarket suspension truly maxed-out the OEM set up? Can any of y'all say the OEM stuff was holding you back? That you'd progressed as a driver to the point where the stock stuff was slowing you down?


Food for thought...
Old 04-14-2006, 08:19 PM
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DMP,

You are so right!

Recently I went to a track for the first time and got beaten by a guy by 0.3 of a sec. He is on stock except a half worn out R spec tyres. I am on full set up and track it for the 1st time. He only had 15 years of racing on the track in his bag....

So I conclude: 15 years of driving on the same track = suspension set up

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Old 04-14-2006, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sixgen3sgte
first off does hks have an electronic damper adjustment device like the edfc
Could you tell me where you see that?

Comment follow by a links helps me not asking this sort of question
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Originally Posted by dmp
You want your car to handle better? Learn to drive. All the suspension in the world won't make your car faster at the track. I'd bet there are quite a few drivers her who'd smoke even the best-coil-over-equipped RX8 in their stock rx8.

How many of you with aftermarket suspension truly maxed-out the OEM set up? Can any of y'all say the OEM stuff was holding you back? That you'd progressed as a driver to the point where the stock stuff was slowing you down?


Food for thought...
So very true, most people complaint about how their stock suspension is causing too much body roll, blaa..blaa..blaa. While the stock suspension may hold you back from going faster, they are ideal for realizing the car's limits and train your body to feel the car's behaviour.
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Originally Posted by takahashi
Could you tell me where you see that?

Comment follow by a links helps me not asking this sort of question
i didn't i was just asking, because i have never heard of them having one but that is a feature i would like to incorperate

that wasn't a sarcastic comment or anything, come on.
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and btw no i am not asking for the car to handle better, i mean yeah it might help a little, but i don't road race or anything, and the car handle really well now, but i do want the car to sit much lower and not have a 3" wheel gap.

so i think i am just going to either get the tien basics for 650 or mabey the meagan racing coilovers for like 1000
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Originally Posted by sixgen3sgte
and btw no i am not asking for the car to handle better, i mean yeah it might help a little, but i don't road race or anything, and the car handle really well now, but i do want the car to sit much lower and not have a 3" wheel gap.

so i think i am just going to either get the tien basics for 650 or mabey the meagan racing coilovers for like 1000

Right - then don't worry about performance; there's a good chance you could actualy reduce the car's handling and still be COMPLETELY happy with the car's abilities.

Shocks and springs - those which provide the drop you want, the go drivin
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Originally Posted by sixgen3sgte
i didn't i was just asking, because i have never heard of them having one but that is a feature i would like to incorperate

that wasn't a sarcastic comment or anything, come on.
Sorry for misunderstanding .... My english is not perfect and you know that . No offence was meant to be laid.

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Originally Posted by dmp
Right - then don't worry about performance; there's a good chance you could actualy reduce the car's handling and still be COMPLETELY happy with the car's abilities.

Shocks and springs - those which provide the drop you want, the go drivin
That is a bit harsh...

You are kind of right (but in a sarcastic way) though. There is no much fun to buy expensive coilovers if you just want the looks; but it is the way the world rotates....

Good spring and shock combo, like in MazdaSpeed, will be a change for the better.

Yes if you are not careful - it will be a change to the worse... but hey most people DO NOT find the limits of the car's handling.

Chill now
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Ok iv just see some of the info on the MS coil overs adjustable from 20 mm to 50mm and have 2 different spring rate increases 80% and 90%. I have been at Sebring Raceway with my cousin's Porsche and we are both going through a few turns on 3 wheels. he just redid his suspension and now has all 4 wheels planted through these turns and pulls from me hard now. so yes suspension does make you faster!!!!
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