PIGBAIT

Just got off the phone with my Mazda dealer after they informed me my car was ready to be picked up. I inquired about a Mazdaspeed Suspension and the parts guy informed me of Mazdaspeed coilovers. He isaid they would have to be special ordered and quoted me a price of $3,832.55.

I don't know a whole lot about Coilovers but that price seems just a bit insane. I mean my god, thats 15% of the price I paid for my car!

TeamRX8

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They quoted you the new Mazdaspeed coilover kit that is coming soon, it's a true adjustable coilover, but yeah most dealers are going to stick you for full retail price

The question is, what specifically do you want i.e. how hard of a ride, height adjustability, shock adjustability, etc.?

Unless you're planning to do competition you might want to just go with the standard Mazdaspeed shock/spring/swaybar combo. Coilovers for a mostly street/daily driver car are a waste; no advantage and not needed.

r0tor

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seeing that the Mazda6 set is going for $1300... i'd say that price was a load of carp - especially since they don't exist yet

nycgps

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Ok, I will say I've been waiting for coilovers for quite some time, but if they're asking for 3K+, I think I will just say "F-U-Mazda(Ford? maybe) Are you out of your F-ing mind?"

Come on, they put gold on it or something ? sheesh

Ok, forget about that, it doesnt even exist (yet?)

PIGBAIT

I went to the dealer and picked up my car right before they closed and I inquired about the prices of both the coilovers and the mazdaspeed sport shocks and springs. They brought out a mazdaspeed catalog and sure enough the coilovers were right there in the catalog.

They quoted me the $3800 again for the coilovers and $740 for the sport shocks and springs.

nycgps

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F-Them, 3800 for Coilovers? It must be made of GOLD ! maybe even Diamonds !

I wont believe it until someone actually has it. I mean, even it does exist in the catalog, whoever gonna get it must be "nuts" or "I have too much money to waste"

TeamRX8

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well they aren't those cheapo Tein/JIC/ect stuff ... I recall the wholesale is $2500 or so and I think they have double adjustable valving

fwiw, a top of the line set of coilover double adjustable racing shocks will cost you $3800 -$5500 just for the shocks only

nycgps

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That I understand.

If its "really that good", then 3-4- even 5 K is worth it.

but the thing is,

Whos gonna be the "Brave Man" to dump 4-5 K to "test it" first ?

Thats not me, unless I win the next lottery.

L8APEX

I have to disagree on a two points.
1-It is not a waste to have coilovers on a primarily street driven car. The car feels more stable, and better planted in daily driving, better on the highway at highway speeds, and it can be adjusted. I soften the shocks up for highway driving, and a little firmer for everyday. And I really like them for track time. The difference is very noticable. At our last track event, I experimented wiht different settings, and I could feel a difference each time, and think it is worth it.
2-I really don't think that the TEIN's are cheapo. Just because they done cost an arm and a leg, or a secondary mortgage on your house. And unless you are competing in sanctioned races, a 5k shock setup is more of a waste, than putting coilovers on a primarily street car. most of us on this forum, are not talented enough to need a suspension setup like the Speedsource guys use.

If you really want a coilover suspension, look at what you want to get out of it, what are you going to do with the car, and go from there.

r0tor

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I'm left wondering if there are 2 different styles of MS coilovers then... there has been a MS coilover package in a MS brochure for over a year (but with an invalid part number) similar to the package available for the 6 right now at $1,300

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...key=MAZ6MS1007

DOMINION

I called my Mazda dealer to get a quote right, Guy said "I dont know what your talking about?" I ran it down in plain English Oh well...

L8APEX

that does not surprise me. In early '05, the service MANAGER at the dearship i used to go to, told me that the '06 8 would be a Mazdaspeed, and would be turbocharged. I just laughed at him. Just because they don't know about it, does not mean it does not exist. And just because they say something, it does not mean they are right.

nycgps

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Well, STill.

Gotta see it to believe it (the Actual Product, AKA, MS Coilovers)

No one has it? Ok.

NoCones

Well, most people reserve the term "coilover" for height-adjustable stuff...which most street driven cars really have no real need for. Adjustable damping is a different story.

L8APEX

The TEIN flex ARE height adjustable. I may not have a need to mess with it, but I did lower the car when we put them on. Not slammed, just lowered about an inch. I am not going to mess with that part of it anymore, it is set, I like where it is.

And coilover refers more to the setup, how it is constructed. A lot of vehicles have a coilover suspension, the spring coil wrapped around the shock/strut, constitutes a coilover. As opposed to leaf springs for rear suspension, and other methods.

NoCones

I know the TEIN's are height adjustable...and what you wrote makes my point...you picked a height you wanted and now are not messing with it...having the height adjustability is of no use to most...picking the right length spring would work just as well.

In theory, I agree on the definition..."coilover" really just means the design...the damper being inside a coil spring...our cars come from the factory with coilovers. But, in practice, it seems when most people say "coilover" today, they mean an aftermarket height-adjustable component.

L8APEX

the problem with just picking a spring of the appropriate height, is getting a properly matched shock to go with it. To my knowledge, only a "coilover" set will do that for this car, other than the current offering from Madzaspeed, and even then, they could be considered a set, much like TEIN basics, even though the basics are also height adjustable. Splitting hairs really...

NoCones

Matching a shock to height is easy. Matching to the spring rate and to the intended use (i.e., street vs. autocross vs. track) is what's hard.

Not at all trying to say that coilovers are bad...just that the height adjustability is something very few people need or make use of.

Spin9k

For ever and ever, Canzoomer has had MazdaSpeed coilovers on his price list. I believe these are direct ship imports and they are $825 + shipping.

Part# is QSE1-28/34-700 "MazdaSpeed Coil-over shock set with springs, fromt/rear (4)"

Is this not the same thing at a far better price?

IZoomZoomI

I don't think those are the adjustable ones. The ones they are referring to are the new(er) ones that are ride height and dampening adjustable.

L8APEX

Yeah, that is the regular static, non-adjustable ones, and there are places to get them for a good bit less than that. The best I found them for when doing my research, was a little under 650 for the 4 springs and 4 shocks.

8is>enuff

$463.20

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ion_index.html

Damn that's tempting.

L8APEX

then they are coming down even more, i did my looking 6 months ago. that is a good price, if it fits your needs.

Spin9k

(fnt+r shock) 100.80+104.40= 204.80 X2 = 409.60 + 4 springs (258) = $667.60 not $463.20 unless I'm missing something.

but those aren't the same as the coilovers I mentioned (maybe), but I'm not sure. These and the coilovers are listed separately at www.canzoomer .com price list

L8APEX

yeah, that is the price range I was finding them in, I think Rosenthal was the best price around.