Got My AP Racing Brakes for the RX8!
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Motor Trend Sept 2002: 2003 35Z Touring (no Brembos) 60-0 in 115 feet. Nissanusa.com says the 2007 Touring model has a curb weight of 3400 lbs and uses 225/45-18 front tires and 245/45-18 rear tires.
Care to bet that the model with the Brembos perform better than that?
Care to bet that the model with the Brembos perform better than that?
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Originally Posted by chickenwafer
Gawd this is sad, a guy upgrades his brakes and shares his joys with us of his new toy and everyone and their mother jumps his case for "Why AP and not Brembo or RB" or some other bullshit. I thought people on this forum were made of nicer stuff......
i take as if you take the time to read and learn, lots of useful knowledge in this thread..
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For sure beers swoope...
SA,
Lock down on a set of wheel - like me - Wedsports mate . They look cool.
I bet anything with very superficial dish with +40 offset (like my Enkei RP03) will do mate...
That Prodrive is not the GC-10G??? They prob looks best with your caliper...
SA,
Lock down on a set of wheel - like me - Wedsports mate . They look cool.
I bet anything with very superficial dish with +40 offset (like my Enkei RP03) will do mate...
Originally Posted by SA
I'm not locked down to any wheel yet, and believe me, I have plenty of time to figure that out while I am accumulating the funds. I have seen a set of prodrives on an RX8 running around near MNAO (a development car??) and they have a TON of clearance. I'm going to look into what offsets those may be as well.
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Chickenwafer - thanks for the support, but as swoope said this has been a very informative and engaging thread
Taka, that looks pretty similar, I want to say that the spokes came out to the edge of the rim though (no lip). They were very cool looking, that is for sure!
Taka, that looks pretty similar, I want to say that the spokes came out to the edge of the rim though (no lip). They were very cool looking, that is for sure!
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Originally Posted by chickenwafer
Gawd this is sad, a guy upgrades his brakes and shares his joys with us of his new toy and everyone and their mother jumps his case for "Why AP and not Brembo or RB" or some other bullshit. I thought people on this forum were made of nicer stuff......
There are differences that should be discussed for the benefit of the forum members to make an informed decision should they decide to upgrade their brakes. I recall getting some of the same when I went through the RacingBrake exercise and didn't take it personal. I don't think SilverEight is either. The Monkeyspanker went a bit overboard IMO given that he doesn't have anything to show but a marketing pitch, but it's all good as far as I'm concerned.
the BS we don't need is pointless commentary from the uninformed. Do you even know BS from shineola when it comes to the RX-8? Not from what I've seen ... if you have BBK experience with the RX-8 then lets hear it, otherwise stick a sock in your beak.
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As far as the rims go, I believe that they are GC-07c Prodrives that I saw...I'll have to see what info I can find, Prodrive America's website is full of holes. Though they do have sizes listed, there are some different "face types" listed, but no pictures breaking out what the differences are.
http://www.prodriveamerica.com/premiumproducts.htm
http://www.prodriveamerica.com/premiumproducts.htm
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I don't think SilverEight is either. The Monkeyspanker went a bit overboard IMO given that he doesn't have anything to show but a marketing pitch, but it's all good as far as I'm concerned.
I, on the other hand am torn. I've seen first-hand just how amazing Brembos are on other cars, and yet, at the same time, am interested in what this other company can do to create a different kit for our amazing little cars. A kit which specifically addresses the track needs we have, while retaining things like fitting behind OEM wheels, using a common pad shape, saving weight all around, etc. This doesn't happen instantly because I'm far from rich.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Do you even know BS from shineola when it comes to the RX-8? Not from what I've seen ... if you have BBK experience with the RX-8 then lets hear it, otherwise stick a sock in your beak.
How mature.
I guess you would know exactly what I know from an internet forum, especially in that post I made. You are so smart.
And yes, I did find this imformative, but some posters (like the one you mentioned) I thought were taking it too far and were trying to sell Brembos or something to that effect.
And no, I don't have any experience with BBKs on the RX8, seeing how I just got my RX8, but I am wanting to upgrade to one in the future. But I guess I'm not allowed to post on this thread without having prior experience, my bad.
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Originally Posted by chickenwafer
I guess you would know exactly what I know from an internet forum, especially in that post I made. You are so smart.
Originally Posted by chickenwafer
And yes, I did find this imformative, but some posters (like the one you mentioned) I thought were taking it too far and were trying to sell Brembos or something to that effect.
Hopping into the middle of a discussion with the equivalent of, "Gee, you guys seem like asses!", will not endear you to the general population here. If you have no experience with BBKs, why comment at all?
We welcome enthusiasm and "new blood", but filter what you type through several ounces of "common sense" before you hit the post button.
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photomunkey: sorry but I dont have the luxury of time to look into archives to bring up proof to you (I barely log in here) and I have thrown away the magazines I had when I used to live in the UK... the fact is, I like brembo and those statements surprised me, thats why I remember them. If you don't want to believe me, fine, no problem here
jap tuners like both companies but at the end of the day they chose AP, thats a good reason for me. beside that, the test in some tuned cars I've seen help me too in my decision. you love brembo. cool. maybe we can stop hijacking siverarrow's thread now
jap tuners like both companies but at the end of the day they chose AP, thats a good reason for me. beside that, the test in some tuned cars I've seen help me too in my decision. you love brembo. cool. maybe we can stop hijacking siverarrow's thread now
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as i said before. this is in the wheels tires and brakes... most of the comments in this thread are aimed at track, and autox. (comp forum)
that is the rub, really if you are not taking your car off the street, the stock stuff is amazing....
now if you want pretty, on the street and have the money that is great...
but,
the real what works well is know in the comp section of the forum, as covered by people that run track days... as taka and team....
food for thought ... lots of info in this thread, but street or track?
beers
that is the rub, really if you are not taking your car off the street, the stock stuff is amazing....
now if you want pretty, on the street and have the money that is great...
but,
the real what works well is know in the comp section of the forum, as covered by people that run track days... as taka and team....
food for thought ... lots of info in this thread, but street or track?
beers
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I would say the maximal benefit will be on the track.
More pads material, longer it takes to heat up the material; even pressure in a 4 pot caliper, even wear of the rotor! My rotor and pad is only up to 250 degree C (at worst) while the stock set can go well over 300 degree C on the same track, on R spec tyres.
Another benefit of caliper on track is that there is no repeated heating and cooling on the outside lip of the OEM brake on the track. Otherwise, after years I am sure I will bend it and reducing its usefulness.
In terms of which caliper to get. One should consider the brake balance between front multi pod caliper and the rear OEM; whether the master cylinder will tolerate the caliper; and the brake pad material and rotors available for that caliper.
I don't know much about brakes. I just know how to use it and still the fastest RX-8 there is at Winton, my home track.
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More pads material, longer it takes to heat up the material; even pressure in a 4 pot caliper, even wear of the rotor! My rotor and pad is only up to 250 degree C (at worst) while the stock set can go well over 300 degree C on the same track, on R spec tyres.
Another benefit of caliper on track is that there is no repeated heating and cooling on the outside lip of the OEM brake on the track. Otherwise, after years I am sure I will bend it and reducing its usefulness.
In terms of which caliper to get. One should consider the brake balance between front multi pod caliper and the rear OEM; whether the master cylinder will tolerate the caliper; and the brake pad material and rotors available for that caliper.
I don't know much about brakes. I just know how to use it and still the fastest RX-8 there is at Winton, my home track.
My $0.02
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Well here's the results from the weekend......
Sure hope it wasn't the brakes.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...7&page=1&pp=15
Sure hope it wasn't the brakes.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...7&page=1&pp=15
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Hey guys,
I'm sorry to say that yes that is my car. It was NOT in any way related to the brakes. They performed flawlessly without a hint of fade (Saturday was dry). Now I've got my work cut out for me...I am fine, just a minor abrasion to my upper arm. Props to Mazda for a stiff chassis! Definitely don't want this to turn anyone off to the brakes though, or driving events!
I'm sorry to say that yes that is my car. It was NOT in any way related to the brakes. They performed flawlessly without a hint of fade (Saturday was dry). Now I've got my work cut out for me...I am fine, just a minor abrasion to my upper arm. Props to Mazda for a stiff chassis! Definitely don't want this to turn anyone off to the brakes though, or driving events!
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Ja, glad your ok. I was sure it wasn't the brakes.
Anyway I can get the undercarraige on the front passenger side.
I can pay a few bucks. Anyway you can get any of your mods off the car or does the insurance company say no.
Anyway I can get the undercarraige on the front passenger side.
I can pay a few bucks. Anyway you can get any of your mods off the car or does the insurance company say no.
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Silver, as a fellow track-afficionado that has gone through the same ordeal, I understand how you feel... However, after my car was totalled, I went to the track with my new car the very next month...
The most important thing is: you are ok
The most important thing is: you are ok
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Thanks guys, i appreciate the kind words, i don't know how this all will shake out, and I haven't written off the car yet. I would like to prevent this from becoming a "pick-a-part" thread though, as it really would be the wrong forum for it, but feel free to pm me.
Aside from that I will say that the brakes really were awesome, absolutely no fade at all and the pedal feel was phenomenal! I would definitely encourage anyone who has plans for upgrades in this area to look at the AP setup. It is still available on special from STILLEN for the rest of the month.
Aside from that I will say that the brakes really were awesome, absolutely no fade at all and the pedal feel was phenomenal! I would definitely encourage anyone who has plans for upgrades in this area to look at the AP setup. It is still available on special from STILLEN for the rest of the month.
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omg so sorry to see that... first of all, you are ok SA, that is what matters...
the car is still a car, it can be replaced... may I ask, did the car become nervous because of the wet track? I just want to know because it was FI too... what tires did you have?
the car is still a car, it can be replaced... may I ask, did the car become nervous because of the wet track? I just want to know because it was FI too... what tires did you have?
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