spence15

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I'm looking into getting some rims within the month and as much as I have learned from rx-8 club I still appear completely clueless to the ENTIRE Wheels and tires section. Trust me I have searched and read. I just want someone to point me in the right direction for what I'm looking for.

I got a quote today on some O.Z Ultraleggera 18x8 +48 (matte black)

with some Dunlop Dizezza DZ101 225/45R18

I want a way more agressive look; but I don't know what to ask for.

I'm probably going to switch the colour to race gold for starters.

instead of the stock 18x8.. shouldn't I go 18x9 or 19x8? Won't that look better than the boring stock size? also what offset will really make them stand out? isn't +48 boring?

---Help me agressive wheel guru's!

Thanks,

Jedi54

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18x8 +48 is almost identical to stock.

***paging Atilla****

The Reverend

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yeah +48 on 8 inch is pretty boring.

how low are you? depending on HOW aggressive you really want to go a fender roll is really not something you should be afraid of

J8635621

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Are you lowered? Are you willing to roll your fenders? Why stop at gold or black? Go with green or blue even lol.

Bullitt

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Dude, use your new Photoshop skills to give yourself and idea.

9krpmrx8

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weaksauce.

TopGear8

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The wheels themselves are very nice, but they will not really "POP" as you say, for them to "pop" you would need at least a 18x9 +30. But they do not come in that size.

Atilla

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oh lawd


ok...

you're gonna need to provide some more inside information before we can accurately help you...

Answer the following:

What's your budget?
Are you lowered - or do you have lowering in the future?
What's your purpose?? (racing or daily driving?)
How much do looks matter?
What kinda fitment are you looking for? (Tucked, Flush or hella flush?)
Are you opposed to fender work? (rolling, pulling, flaring etc.)


Answer these questions n' we should be able to give you some better pointers...

HiFlite999

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Personally, I wouldn't go to 19's because of the extra weight and the rotational inertia will have a detrimental effect on acceleration. I'm running Volk SE37W 18"x8.5" +30mm offset bronze wheels with the stock tire size (225/45x18). This increases the track both front and rear by 1.4" (18+18mm) for a more aggressive look. It also moves the wheel out of the cavernous wheel well by an inch (48-30+6mm) and more into view without extending the top of the tire past the plane of the fender. The 225/45 on an 8.5 width gives a mildly stretched look. 245/45's might fit with this offset, but it'd be very close. Were I buying new I might have gone with a 18x9 with a +36 offset and 245/40 tires for the same 'look'. The disadvantage in what I'm using now is that the track increase results in an increased scrub radius and slightly higher steering effort. Check in with the real experts though - give tire rack a call. (By 'fit' I mean fit without fender rolling. I'm also riding at the stock height.)

J8635621

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Nice post but honestly....did scrub radius or track increase have any negative effect on your driving? I can't feel any negative effect and my wheels are about 1/2" further out all around.

spence15

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Thanks Atilla I can do that.

Budget: say $3000 when all done with. Tax inc.

lowered: yes on mazdaspeed springs. picture below



Purpose: spirited daily driving. (would love to track this summer)

Car driven: Only summer, so nevermind all-seasons etc.

Looks: A lot, because I won't be tracking it to much say twice a summer, I like things that look nice. (why I bought the 8 and not the 350z.)

See now this is where I'm gunna raise some crap for not doing my H.W.
--haha I don't know what looks good. (Tucked, Flush or hella flush?) I like them all.. uh oh.

I don't have enough confidence in any local shop to fender flare, roll or pull, my area is surrounded by nice suvs and stock vehicles. Even the shop getting my rims are like hey man are you sure you want these we have plenty of 150 dollar rims that look the same.

and thanks for the help already, I was hoping to avoid the flame on this one.

J8635621

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So no roll makes me say 18x9+30 with 245/40.

spence15

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I'm not sure but apparently these rims won't come in +30. It's not listed on their site.

The Reverend

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Are you committed to the OZ's? With your budget you have lots of choices.

spence15

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No definately not but I'm picky though.

I love the forgestars thats my first choice but I don't want to wait 10 weeks minimum to receive them.. my car is only a summer car and in Canada its a short season.

Like I said before my area doesn't seem to carry alot of tunner / expensive rims just cheap replicas for people to put on their civics and such.

I love work emotions but again hard to come by. I found that the oz's are nice and have always been one of my favourites.

Atilla

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First of all: Shame on you for not doing your homework

Second: I don't have my charts w/me today but iirc the ultraleggra's come in 18x9 +35 - which is a good choice if you wanna run 245's as J suggested. Won't be "as flush" but it will certainly fill the wheel gap better than those 18x8's.

Kinda sucks you don't trust any shops locally but there's gotta be at least ONE shop that can do a decent fender roll. It's not that hard - i mean, i would suggest you do it yourself by just renting a roller and a heat gun it's not that difficult - just a lil' tedious (sp). If you manage to get your fenders rolled, you'll be able to fit a lil' more rubber under there to fill out the wheel gap even more and look a lot more legit IMO.

This will also benefit you because you'll be able to increase the amount of rubber to the ground. You may gain more weight as far as mass but you're giving it up for grip - kinda a fair trade imo.

My opinion: If you want 'more flush' then you're going to need at the very least a fender roll. If you can get that done - look at 18x9 +35 w/255's or 265's if you wanna push it. You should be able to pull off a very nice look.

Mind you, iirc, these wheels do not have a concave face. Meaning no matter the range of offset, the external face will remain the same. That's iirc of course.

btw, w/your budget - you can afford a great deal of wheels out there - are you set on these wheels??


hope this helps.

spence15

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Alright the 18x9 +35 with 245's sounds like a decent improvement. You think I could squeeze a 255 without a fender roll??

As for the fender roll, I find that as I said the shops around here don't care much for high end wheels or aggressive fitiments because it's unpractical for the off season (winter) where these people drive their cars with allseasons all year round.

The place I got my quote at is extremetiregarage lol that reccommended I do 18x8 +48 so that shows how "extreme" they really are. lol

I do miss not having a concave face on these, like the forgestars were able to offer.

I'm definately not set on these wheels, I like the RPF1's in either gold or black, but they only come in about 3rd to the full spoked oz ultraleggeraz, forgestar f14's (piano black) and Work Emotion Cr Kai's (black).

What do ya think?

Atilla

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18x9 +35 w/255's stand a good chance of grabbing the fender at full load or w/a couple of people in the car. You may or may not be able to pull it off if you're cambered to the right degree tho.

That's pretty freakin' hilarious that a shop called 'extreme' would suggest something so conservative that's hardcore. . .



It would seem that you're a fan of the multispoke set up so have you looked at other brands such as Volk, advan, bbs or ssr??

The Reverend

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Can you rent a fender roller from a parts shop?

Rolling is not that hard, get a heat gun and take your time.

I hate to break it to you but for the look you want rolling may be unavoidable...

spence15

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Wow so I just found a shop literally down the street thats a super low key shop that focuses most on euro model cars that can fender roll for me.

Alright so now lets find this setup I soo badly want.

I can do the 18x9 +35 with a 255 tire now. Would it be the 255/35R18 ?! They are closed for the day (its 6pm here) so I will visit them tommorrow and try and get the ball rolling.

Thanks for the help guys,

Hopefully all goes well tommorrow.

Atilla

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255/35 should work fine if you get a legit roll. Good luck

spence15

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Your comment shows and appears to express concern. A legit roll? lol should I be worried about something wise one? lol

The Reverend

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there are degrees to how flat they can roll it. ie if they don't roll enough and you end up rubbing anyway

Atilla

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indeed

some people get a slight roll where only a small portion is rolled up or some go for a full roll where it's more flat to the fender. A slight roll w/an aggressive setup will stand a chance of either rubbing or even worse, grabbing. A legit euro shop should be more than experienced to do something like rolling fenders tho......if there's any cracks in the paint - demand a refund and start a fire in their garage...


...just sayin...

spence15

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Haha well I definately will be making sure they are careful. I will stand by with my tball bat if any of them screw up my fenders haha Atilla then I'm coming for you for suggesting this! haha j.k. if it wasn't obvious by the way lol.

Thanks for all the help though. can't wait to FINALLY get these stock rims sold off with my great goodyear eagle rs-a's.