titaniumgrey

Well found these Project Mu brake pads. Part number is BFF445F36 for the front. Found them at $75 + shipping for the front and another 70 for the rear ones. Anyone tried these before , the description says theres less brake dust than stock pads ... which is the reason why I want them , not for performance or anythnig ,but thats a plus.

Description

"Street Brake Pad with Superior Initial Stopping Power

Developed specifically for the street, NS outperforms any stock brake pads. Reliable in any weather or road conditions, NS gives outstanding initial stopping power which is a prime importance on the street. In addition to reducing brake dust and squeal, NS helps keep rotor wear to a minimum.

Applicable Rotor Temp: (F&R) 0 to 400 deg. Celsius

"

What you guys think ?

titaniumgrey

Also ... heard this same company is making these brake pads in Type HC titan Kai , no idea what it means but heres a graph of the friction coefficients and heres the description "Hyper-Carbon w/ Titanium Fluoride pads are a highly advnce brake compound with superior control and stopping power."
and
"New Hyper-Carbon Brake Pad with Titanium Fluoride
By fusing together titanium fluoride with standard carbon, a highly advance brake compound has been achieved. The result is a superior brake pad which provides greater control and stopping power for today's heavier, high output tuner cars."

Also the price seems to be doubled , so 140-150 for only the fronts in hyper-carbon w/ titanium floride.

Anyone know if these are good or are they bullshizzlez ?
(main goal , less brake dust , maybe more stopping power)

RXhusker

Vivid sells them -- I have them -- had them on for a few weeks and thought they were great -- decided to switch back to my stock pads til they wear out (soon). I have heard from another forum member that they have experienced excessive rust with them. I would suggest talking with Huff at Vivid.

shelleys_man_06

I think it would be a good idea to understand the effects of a carbon-titanium-flouride brake pad. As far as I'm concerned, carbon wears out pretty quickly, and it also retains a lot of heat. I'm sure the titanium component of the pad makes it very abrasive. I don't know to much about flouride, but I would be happy to check its chemical properties out for you . If my guess on these pads is right, I would suggest getting something less abrasive, unless your application states otherwise. I'm wouldn't be too concerned about the coefficient of friction graph. Did that make any sense to you? I understand it, but I would be more comfortable with a chart displaying the stopping distances versus stock. I think Project Mu is doing some BS. I'm going to wait until more brake companies come out with a more "streetable" pad, probably something with not too much carbon. Something more metallic maybe? I'll ask my boss. He's the brake god at work .

Speed Racer

I have been using a set of Carbotech Bobcats for the last 3k miles. Carbotech describes them as being:

• Extremely low dusting on the street
• Excellent cold stopping, perhaps as low as 40F!!
• Fade resistant to at least 900F
• Very rotor friendly over entire temperature range
• Very quiet over broad range of line pressure inputs
• Incredibly firm pedal feel and excellent initial bite

That list is pretty much false in comparison to the OEM pads with the exception that they dust less than the OEM pads. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone else.

shelleys_man_06

Maybe it's because they're shooting the breeze too much. Get my drift?

shelleys_man_06

I forgot about this thread; I think I promised to update it, since I was supposed to talk to my all-knowing boss. He told me the best material for brake pads is ceramic; it has a low rate of fade, a high rate of heat rejection, not to mention it decreases the stopping distance some. I don't know if this is completely true. I also asked him about Kevlar. He said he knows nothing about that. My boss also mentioned that metallic is also a good brake pad compound, especially when mixed with ceramic.

On another note, I looked up the physical properties of Kevlar on www.matweb.com , only to find a slew of notes regarding Kevlar. It was insane. I'm an engineering student, not a bookworm, so I left it alone. If there is anyone who can give some insight on Kevlar and its usefulness with brake pads, please share.

murix

The stock pads are rated for 400C and the Mazdaspeed pads are rated at 600C. After spending quite some time searching for pads that would be the best compromise between street/strip I have decided to just go with the Mazdaspeed ones. I will report how they work once I can get them in. If I can get them here before Tuesday next week I will have a chance to get them on the track. Hopefully someone has them in stock.

I think everything on my car is about compromise between street/strip and so far so good.