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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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A MC brace is a waste of a modification for anyone not modulating their brakes under trailbraking. Anyone with an educated right foot, who is proficient at brake modulation during trail braking, will be pushing their car into lateral load limits. Hence, benefiting from the lateral stiffness that a tower brace provides. It's best to have both working in conjunction. The MS bar does both.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mysql
how did the strut bar increase steering response to a direct connect steering system with electrical assist?
The car changes direction quicker than with the two point.

I wasn't expecting much difference when I acquired it but was pleasantly surprised with the improvement. If a person is driving the car like a sedan then they won't notice much but if they plan on pushing the car at all in the corners like the car is intended. Then they will feel a difference.

Only reason I am not getting this is, I don't see it being compatible with my brace.

I will look at engineering one for mine once I take care of some other things.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mysql
how did the strut bar increase steering response to a direct connect steering system with electrical assist?
Increased lateral stiffness translates to improved turn-in response. Electrical assist steering is the mechanism for turning the wheel. Chassis dynamics is what distributes load which the suspension articulates, which in turn responds to the steering imput. Again, all of these work in conjunction with each other.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthFL
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A MC brace is a waste of a modification for anyone not modulating their brakes under trailbraking.
But it sure does feel good. I really like mine.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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They both have a job and both do something well.

The MC brace definitely makes braking more linear and consistent even under light stop and go city driving.

The strut tower brace isn't really noticeable around town but you'll notice it at the track when you're pushing the limits. The frame is like a giant series of springs that work in conjunction with the suspension. It will flex depending on where the least rigid part of the frame is. Usually it's the longest section without any bracing, buttressing or support. Usually it's the shock towers.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
They both have a job and both do something well.

The MC brace definitely makes braking more linear and consistent even under light stop and go city driving.

The strut tower brace isn't really noticeable around town but you'll notice it at the track when you're pushing the limits. The frame is like a giant series of springs that work in conjunction with the suspension. It will flex depending on where the least rigid part of the frame is. Usually it's the longest section without any bracing, buttressing or support. Usually it's the shock towers.
Originally Posted by SouthFL
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A MC brace is a waste of a modification for anyone not modulating their brakes under trailbraking. Anyone with an educated right foot, who is proficient at brake modulation during trail braking, will be pushing their car into lateral load limits. Hence, benefiting from the lateral stiffness that a tower brace provides. It's best to have both working in conjunction. The MS bar does both.

This is the point I'm stressing.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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SevenStock BUMP!!!!

Richard: will you be there again this year? I might just have to take one of these off your hands...
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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he might want you to pay for it Jorge
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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BAH!!! Me and Richard go WAY back.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 02:34 AM
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Anyone got one of these with an aftermarket brace
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Old May 18, 2017 | 08:08 PM
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Any companies sell a brace like this anymore (without having to go and buy a Mazdaspeed strut bar).
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Old May 19, 2017 | 09:01 AM
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I have a used on in the garage. Will dig it up if you are interested. Let me know.
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Old Aug 12, 2025 | 11:28 AM
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How do yall feel about this? Seems the MC design was changed right where it contacts the brace.

also, Ultra Racing strut brace works without modification.

Seems the solution would be a bolt with swivel head and pad, if the angle of the bolt was drilled properly at a more vertical angle.






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