AxialFlow Brake Master Cylinder Brace
02-06-2008, 02:33 AM
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AxialFlow Brake Master Cylinder Brace
Richard has a new toy for us and I think it was a long-time coming.
I've been envious of the people with the MS strut brace. Not because of the bling, but because of the adjustable brace for the brake master cylinder.
So, here is the AxialFlow solution:
Rich says he only knows for sure that it works with the stock brace. The price is $70 plus S&H.
I've been envious of the people with the MS strut brace. Not because of the bling, but because of the adjustable brace for the brake master cylinder.
So, here is the AxialFlow solution:
Rich says he only knows for sure that it works with the stock brace. The price is $70 plus S&H.
02-06-2008, 10:47 AM
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The Professor
In my case, richard said that it wouldn't work with my Autoexe brace, but I have the 2 point one.
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Last edited by staticlag; 02-06-2008 at 10:50 AM.
02-06-2008, 01:55 PM
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It doesn't attach to the strut studs it uses two of the three spring/shock studs.
As time goes by we will find out what fits. There is one inch clearence below the brace, I'll have to get some more shots.
If you have question if it fits send a picture maybe I tell you.
If I tell it"ll fit and doesn't you can send it back.
The stock strut needs a hole drilled to get it on. This is just a 13/8 holesaw right over one of the studs so you can get ate it. This sort of thing may be nessasary on others.
As time goes by we will find out what fits. There is one inch clearence below the brace, I'll have to get some more shots.
If you have question if it fits send a picture maybe I tell you.
If I tell it"ll fit and doesn't you can send it back.
The stock strut needs a hole drilled to get it on. This is just a 13/8 holesaw right over one of the studs so you can get ate it. This sort of thing may be nessasary on others.
02-06-2008, 02:44 PM
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^ I was thinking about asking the same question. I mean.... I don't race or do track. I just do the everyday crusing around town, to work and thats about it. I'm pretty mellow driver. So will I be able to tell the difference? Will it be beneficial to me to put it on?
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02-06-2008, 03:44 PM
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The Professor
Every little bit helps.
02-06-2008, 03:45 PM
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We looked at the Odula, it's as flexable as the air around it.
We're talking sheetmetal with a nut welded to it!
It needs to hold back all the pressure you can push with your leg.
It might work as a throtle stop.
Normally I don't bad mouth other peoples product but this one insults the intelligence.
We're talking sheetmetal with a nut welded to it!
It needs to hold back all the pressure you can push with your leg.
It might work as a throtle stop.
Normally I don't bad mouth other peoples product but this one insults the intelligence.
02-06-2008, 03:56 PM
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We looked at the Odula, it's as flexable as the air around it.
We're talking sheetmetal with a nut welded to it!
It needs to hold back all the pressure you can push with your leg.
It might work as a throtle stop.
Normally I don't bad mouth other peoples product but this one insults the intelligence.
We're talking sheetmetal with a nut welded to it!
It needs to hold back all the pressure you can push with your leg.
It might work as a throtle stop.
Normally I don't bad mouth other peoples product but this one insults the intelligence.
So, from this response, I would have to assume that bracing the master in this location keeps it from moving with pressure placed on the clutch pedal?
If this is the case, how does this not make things worse with the clutch pedal breakages we have been having with the RX8.
My clutch pedal broke under normal driving conditions. I would have to assume, that with a master cylinder brace, that the force on the clutch pedal would then be stronger since there would be less flexing at the master cylinder, and that snappage of the clutch pedal would be more likely?
The every bit helps comment above doesnt help address the question of what a master cylinder brace is designed to do.
02-06-2008, 04:07 PM
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So, from this response, I would have to assume that bracing the master in this location keeps it from moving with pressure placed on the clutch pedal?
If this is the case, how does this not make things worse with the clutch pedal breakages we have been having with the RX8.
My clutch pedal broke under normal driving conditions. I would have to assume, that with a master cylinder brace, that the force on the clutch pedal would then be stronger since there would be less flexing at the master cylinder, and that snappage of the clutch pedal would be more likely?
The every bit helps comment above doesnt help address the question of what a master cylinder brace is designed to do.
If this is the case, how does this not make things worse with the clutch pedal breakages we have been having with the RX8.
My clutch pedal broke under normal driving conditions. I would have to assume, that with a master cylinder brace, that the force on the clutch pedal would then be stronger since there would be less flexing at the master cylinder, and that snappage of the clutch pedal would be more likely?
The every bit helps comment above doesnt help address the question of what a master cylinder brace is designed to do.
Originally Posted by crafted_soul
I was thinking about asking the same question. I mean.... I don't race or do track. I just do the everyday crusing around town, to work and thats about it. I'm pretty mellow driver. So will I be able to tell the difference? Will it beneficial to me to put it on?
Originally Posted by staticlag
Every little bit helps.
Well, if you have been anywhere in the last 4 years you would know that the Mazdaspeed strut tower brace comes with something like this as a standard piece.
This item from Richard is simply a beefier version that does not limit the user to the Mazdaspeed Brace.
Do something to enhance the sportiness of the car? Yes, they will all make things fail faster. Pick an item, racing beat flash, better gripping brake pads...
02-06-2008, 05:02 PM
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Staticlag states, "Do something to enhance the sportiness of the car? Yes, they will all make things fail faster. Pick an item, racing beat flash, better gripping brake pads..."
RichardPaul states, "If you keep the master clyd from moving it keeps the clutch from binding from twist thus it helps both. Eliminate resistance from the binding and there is less strain on the clutch pedal"
so, question....more strain or less strain.....?
I have been around for 4 years, and I am fully aware of the master cylinder brace on the MS bar. It seems to be a part that has some use in general....just didn't know the reasonings behind it.
Richard addressed that question with his recent response....a cylinder brace reduces binding that can occur.
I would just think that if you tighten things on one end of the line, if binding were to occur it would be worse on the other end. This is why I asked about the clutch pedal, since that design is seriously in question now with all the failures....and CharlesHill who is working on a bracket to strengthen that component.
I've has a bad clutch, have continued to have transmission and clutch related issues....and am just skeptical at this point to do anything....in fear of making things worse...or just spreading out the blame so I can't pinpoint the origion of a failure.
I have things working perfectly now and am just being cautious. This product is not for me, but may be for some others out there.
RichardPaul states, "If you keep the master clyd from moving it keeps the clutch from binding from twist thus it helps both. Eliminate resistance from the binding and there is less strain on the clutch pedal"
so, question....more strain or less strain.....?
I have been around for 4 years, and I am fully aware of the master cylinder brace on the MS bar. It seems to be a part that has some use in general....just didn't know the reasonings behind it.
Richard addressed that question with his recent response....a cylinder brace reduces binding that can occur.
I would just think that if you tighten things on one end of the line, if binding were to occur it would be worse on the other end. This is why I asked about the clutch pedal, since that design is seriously in question now with all the failures....and CharlesHill who is working on a bracket to strengthen that component.
I've has a bad clutch, have continued to have transmission and clutch related issues....and am just skeptical at this point to do anything....in fear of making things worse...or just spreading out the blame so I can't pinpoint the origion of a failure.
I have things working perfectly now and am just being cautious. This product is not for me, but may be for some others out there.
02-06-2008, 05:16 PM
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The clutch lever doesn't put strain on the MC. It pushes into a hydraulic line. RP's product wouldn't help the weld issue. This is for full force stomps on the brakes since the firewall is made of ricepaper.
02-06-2008, 06:14 PM
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LOL
Brake Pedal. Its for bracing the brake cylinder so that there isn't so much movement when the forces are applied... isn't it
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02-06-2008, 06:32 PM
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I am just going by the way it looks, I haven't read anything that says it can't fit LHD. In the picture the upper left bracket looks like it attaches to the shock tower mount of a RHD car.
02-06-2008, 06:42 PM
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