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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 04:08 AM
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RP: good product, better finish. wish it tailored to my taste a lil better. nonetheless, a fabulous piece.

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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 05:15 AM
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Guess I didn't make it clear, using the little tab sucks. How's that?
Look at the geometry, there is not enough leverage just using the one bolt and the tab. What I said was it would be cheaper and I'd make more money but can't see it.
As to the hole in the strut bar it means nothing. In fact I see you're taking weight out of your car, try this hole ond you gain your reduction number. Have you ever looked at aircraft construction? They put holes all over the place, race cars also.
We have an expensive program called FEA that makes pretty color images to show where the excess material is. So believe me when I say that bar is not any weaker from the hole. Also did you miss the part where I said I don't even run a strut bar?
I'm done with this. Please don't string out my thread anymore, I have enough people bitching about the SC thread.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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OK Burbank if you make an appointment I will put your brace on the bridgport and cut the hole.

Maybe someone should try this: jack the car up on one side until the other comes up. Do this without the brace and see if the hood still fits. If it does then you don't need the brace.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Maybe someone should try this: jack the car up on one side until the other comes up. Do this without the brace and see if the hood still fits. If it does then you don't need the brace.
That is excellent!

Really, I still marvel at how stiff the RX-8 really is.
I often have to put my floor jack in different spots and it still amazes me when the "wrong" part of the car is suddenly in the air.

I've put a jack somewhere in the middle of a door sill and lifted 3 wheels inadvertently.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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Really, I still marvel at how stiff the RX-8 really is.
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It must be looking at your avatar. [/end thread hijack]
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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from an engineering perspective, I'd rather cut a hole in the strut tower brace bracket then load up the little flimsy tab to prevent the master cylinder brace from rotating....
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
It must be looking at your avatar. [/end thread hijack]


That could be true, my girlfreinds have no idea what they owe him.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
OK Burbank if you make an appointment I will put your brace on the bridgport and cut the hole.

Maybe someone should try this: jack the car up on one side until the other comes up. Do this without the brace and see if the hood still fits. If it does then you don't need the brace.
Coolness.. I'll PM you when I'm ready to do it..
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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They're ready to go. Blue, Red or Raw. Not on the web site yet but if you want one PM me. The site should have them in a day or so.
Everyone who has tried them likes it, something about going from "soft to hard."
I think we should use that in the ad.


For the first 100 units they are $70.00 plus $12.00 S&H.
If you have an aftermarket strut bar look at the pictures and see what you think. If you can just send me a picture of it and we will look at too.
Will not fit RHD cars.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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^ cool.. Most of us know what it's like to go from soft to hard after seeing MM's avitar.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Installation Instructions

1. Remove the strut tower brace using a 12mm socket.
2. Remove the two shock mount nuts toward the rear of the car using 14mm socket.
3. Position the master cylinder brace over the shock mount studs.
4. Place the washer in the master cylinder brace mounting nut holes.
5. Install the brace mounting nuts using a 7/8" or 22 mm socket 34 - 46 ft/lbs.
6. Adjust the master cylinder support bolt using a 17mm open end wrench.
7. Load the master cylinder support bolt a quarter turn after contact (approx one to two flats, .010" - .020").
8. Tighten the master cylinder support lock nut using a 17mm open end wrench.

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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the brace came in this afternoon, it took about 2 mins to install since I'm not using the stock STB.

Thanks, RP!




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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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I've been getting a number of PMs regarding SCCA autox class legality so ...

Stock - not legal

Street Touring - not legal

Street Prepared and higher - legal

Based on what I see it can be in place for the classes it's not legal in, but the screw needs to be backed away from the MC so that there's a gap large enough for there not to be any bracing effect during competition
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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I installed the brace yesterday and flushed the brake fluid, here are a few pics of the finished product...









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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Do you think you can cut the brace with a hack saw and then use a grinder to make it look nice?
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
Do you think you can cut the brace with a hack saw and then use a grinder to make it look nice?
Yes, I used a hole saw first though, then cut the rest with a small air saw and cleaned up the edges with a die grinder.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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What's with the gaping hole in the bridge of the flange. I'd purchase this if it didn't massacre the bridge of the strut tower bar flange. From the looks of it, that seems like a place where lateral load would be distributed to the rest of the flange. Anyone who is going to benefit from the use of a MC brace for pedal feel/feedback under modulation is probably going to be exploiting the lateral stiffness of their car as well (track day and autox guys). Makes no sense to ruin your brace in return for pedal feel (also makes no sense to run no bar in return for pedal firmness either).

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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 06:55 AM
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What's with the gaping hole in the bridge of the flange. I'd purchase this if it didn't massacre the bridge of the strut tower bar flange. From the looks of it, that seems like a place where lateral load would be distributed to the rest of the flange. Anyone who is going to benefit from the use of a MC brace for pedal feel/feedback under modulation is probably going to be exploiting the lateral stiffness of their car as well (track day and autox guys). Makes no sense to ruin your brace in return for pedal feel (also makes no sense to run no bar in return for pedal firmness either).
Did you read this thread at all? RP and MM both addressed this very question.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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It's a large hole in distribution of the bridge of the brace. That's all I need to see not to buy it. I prefer to use a structurally sound brace.

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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:14 AM
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the strut bar does nothing. you'd be better off removing it and just installing the MC brace instead.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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The strut bar does something. I'd rather have it doing its job than have a MC brace. MS Bar with MC brace is the standard.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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yeah, eye candy, just like our side vents
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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It's a rather ugly bar for eye candy.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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When I installed my 4-point strut bar I noticed the difference right away. Steering response was noticably improved.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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how did the strut bar increase steering response to a direct connect steering system with electrical assist?
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