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Old 07-17-2007, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
i ran max gear 75-90
ditto
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
ditto
double ditto
Old 07-17-2007, 10:51 PM
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i find that very odd.. are they all 04s???

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No problem with Mobile One
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Redline MTL FTW.
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swoope:
one '04, two '05's.

stranger things have happened I guess...
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one '06, it's been grinding since the day I put it in.
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yea,

very very odd.. o well at least you figured out what works.. i have ~ 55k grind free w afs miles on mine... with rp..

the only connection i see is cali... and that is more odd.

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I would say hot weather but you guys have that also.
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Originally Posted by Razz1
No problem with Mobile One

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Mobil1 what? They don't make a MTF in the States, just a diff oil. If you're using the SHC stuff I hope you'll share your source.
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I too have been running the RP max gear and have experience grinding in 2nd and 4th gear upshifts as well as 3rd to 2nd downshifts above 48 mph.

I'm going to perform a fluid change this week to see if that makes any changes. I'm also in the process of installing a stainless clutch line and make a pedal adjustment.

I'll post up the results!
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Redline MTL FTTR

(For the trans replacement, not heavy enough)

I'm still not sure about people using Shockproof for the street, you may want to consider Redline 75W90NS or 75W140NS (my vote) , the NS designation = non-slip, it specifically does not have slippery addidives for sychro use
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Mobil1 75W90 Synthetic Gear Lube. It is GL-5 and works great for me, as it has for the past couple years, since I had problems with RP and preffered to go back to a stock-type lube.
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I believe the Mobil1 75W90 has friction modifiers in it which wouldn't be great for syncros. I emailed Mobil and they do not recommend it for manual trannys. In Europe they offer Mobil1 SHC as an MTF. You can't buy it here.
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I am using mobile1 as well but suffering grinding. year is 2006 and also in california, haha. Considering changing to redline also.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Redline MTL FTTR

(For the trans replacement, not heavy enough)

I'm still not sure about people using Shockproof for the street, you may want to consider Redline 75W90NS or 75W140NS (my vote) , the NS designation = non-slip, it specifically does not have slippery addidives for sychro use
I would like to see someone's results with the 140w, the shockproof is heavy so i'll have to see what the winter conditions here will do to the trans feel. As of now it does take longer to warm the trans up compared to the RP (and even the stock fluid) but once its to temp its great. My rx8 isn't a daily driver either so if the winter temps add some grieve to my trans shifts i'll try a lighter weight.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Redline MTL FTTR

(For the trans replacement, not heavy enough)

I'm still not sure about people using Shockproof for the street, you may want to consider Redline 75W90NS or 75W140NS (my vote) , the NS designation = non-slip, it specifically does not have slippery addidives for sychro use
followup in another thread:

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...2&postcount=52
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
the plot thickens...

really, i have one of the trans in the vin range to be bad.. the only thing i can come up with between fla and cali is humidly .. dillsrotary.. you got humid.. odd.

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Swoope, what is this VIN range you speak of? Is it your findings or is there an unspoken Mazda "recall"?
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Originally Posted by savedsol
Swoope, what is this VIN range you speak of? Is it your findings or is there an unspoken Mazda "recall"?

two problems with the early build 04s. quite a few had the bad sycro issue, i dont think that made a tsb. it is usually the 2nd gear syncro, but i have driven one with a bad 5th and 6th..

the other was pressure plate bolts backing out.. that did make a tsb...

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Originally Posted by swoope
this may be a silly simple ?

exactly what royal purple are you running??


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MaxGear for the Royal Purple, MT90 for the Redline. I wish I could procure some of the stuff they put into the car from the factory.
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04 + bad second gear synchro or fork = me!
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better than the OE oil is the Kaaz 80W90 dino oil that they sell specifically for their LSDs, no friction modifiers. It will cost you though; $44/2 liters plus shipping

the 2004 trans TSB is for a weak 2nd gear shifter fork that bends
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
better than the OE oil is the Kaaz 80W90 dino oil that they sell specifically for their LSDs, no friction modifiers. It will cost you though; $44/2 liters plus shipping

the 2004 trans TSB is for a weak 2nd gear shifter fork that bends
team what fluid do you keep in your new diff?
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i wasnt having synco issues --mine was more gear noise. !st thing to addres if you think you have synco issues is clutch adjustment,--make sure that is not an issue 1st(this includes bleeding the clutch).
I have tired to reduce my gear noise(more apparent after the short shifter install) with many different oils. these include
1- redline light weight shock proof
2- redline heavy weight shock proof
3- moble 1 synthetic 75/90
4- straight redline (trans oil)
5-redline heavy weight schock proof and RP syncomax blend (1 to 1)
6- royal purple 75/90
and last and by far the best result in shifting and noise is one quart royal purple 75/90 max gear and one quart royal purple 75/140 maxgear. The trans does hold 2 quarts without any drainage from the top plug.
this blend for my car makes the shifting a little more firm--not slick with just the 75/90---and the gear noise and even the pilot shaft noise much quieter.
I have an 04 with 47K. track a good bit. I change trans and diff fluids once a year at least.
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