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Red Devil 12-06-2007 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by bose (Post 2175157)
Freaking out because until I read this I had no clue, in piston engine it's usually a sign of somthing bigger. The other reason I'm worried is cause I can't check my oil, can't see anything but the frothy goop. Thirdly everyone states that they mostly only see it on the top near the grommet, mine is ALL over the frickin thing.

Here's the question I pose. How many people are seeing this that are copletely stock vs. those who have mods. (intake/exhast) etc?

Yes, you can check the oil. It goes all the way down my dipstick also. Wipe off the dipstick, put it back in to get the level...that's all it takes.

Had it when the car was completely OEM, have it now that it isn't. No difference.

I'm trying to be helpful here, worry about other things, like warming up the engine properly, redlining, etc...

nycgps 12-06-2007 10:31 AM

why Freak out ? because you guys are morons.

You will find water everywhere, even in your gas tank, its just that you dont *see* it doesnt mean its not there.

Get over it. Its harmless.

StealthTL 12-06-2007 10:42 AM

When it's chilly here, like today, (-33*C) I can get brown foamy ICE at the top of the dipstick......


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bose 12-06-2007 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 2175275)
why Freak out ? because you guys are morons.

You will find water everywhere, even in your gas tank, its just that you dont *see* it doesnt mean its not there.

Get over it. Its harmless.

Because I've had the car for two months didn't know it was 'normal'. Uneducated on the matter, so I guess it makes me a moron to want to make sure my car is working correctly. Stupid me I guess next time I see somthing strange I'll just ignore it like you!

Oh yeah also the stealership wants to void my warranty due to my aem intake and greddy exhaust...man they are a bunch of fXXks.

BoosTED 12-06-2007 06:02 PM

When I was completely stock I had foam when it was cold.

When I did intake and exhaust there was no change.

:cool:

Delmeister 12-10-2007 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by 4 years to Supercharge (Post 1645871)
Yes it looks like the 2006 PCV system.

Here is the TSB: http://www.finishlineperformance.com...50-06-1664.pdf
option?

This works. The earlier system with the tube did not. However I did have a problem in that the mechanic hooked things up wrong. Threw two CELs. Had to take it back and have it done again.

nycgps 12-10-2007 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by bose (Post 2175414)
Because I've had the car for two months didn't know it was 'normal'. Uneducated on the matter, so I guess it makes me a moron to want to make sure my car is working correctly. Stupid me I guess next time I see somthing strange I'll just ignore it like you!

Oh yeah also the stealership wants to void my warranty due to my aem intake and greddy exhaust...man they are a bunch of fXXks.

Sorry my bad, I dont really mean that. (moron thing)

stealership are the fuxking morons.

They cant void you anything unless they can proof that the *aftermarket parts name here* is the cause of failure, and the cause of failure is something that can hold in court, not *because the tech said so*

I understand their point, they dont want to deal with *unknowns*. and they should not responsible for the end user's own action. my friend had a Sienna, bought in I think 2002 or something, I drove it when he got it for couple hundred miles, it was pulling strong and stuff. after a year, I drove it again and I was like wtf is going on? The engine feels like its about to blow up or something, CEL was on of course. after further discussion I found out that he(his father to be exact), NEVER change the oil, yep, the oil in the engine is STILL the same oil came out from the factory, and that was like what 30 or 35K miles already. I asked him have you guys ever changed the engine oil ? he was what? you have to change engine oil ? LOL , I took him to the oil change place, when they drain the oil, the guy was like wtf the oil is pitch dark and looks like water. they sold the car after maybe 2 months cuz I told them you guys fucked it up bad, its better to trade it in. and CHANGE the oil next time every 3-5 K miles or so. they did, got an odyssey. This story has nothing to do with aftermarket parts, but if he took his Sienna back to the dealership, they still have to fix it, they have no idea what the user did.

but most dealership wants to give people shit just because they want *easy money* instead of *have to check everything else*

bose 12-11-2007 09:41 AM

^^No worries, I'm not butthurt over it.

They stupid thing about them wanting to void my warranty is that I have the AEM intake which is the exact same thing as the Mazdaspeed intake. And that's what they wanted to void the warranty for. WTF.

SebtownRx8 12-19-2007 11:57 PM

Just joining the club i have it here too, 30min + trips. Everything is working fine and like you all have said its not hurting anything so w/e.

bobafpe 12-21-2007 10:28 AM

Got Ventilation Kit to Solve Milky Substance on Dipsticke- Now Have Engine Light
 
Well, Last Monday, I put my 05 MT in to have the warranty work done to replace the condesation in the tail light and the milky stuff on the dipstick bofore I kit 5ok miles. I thought I would get a :banghead: dipstick sleeve installed, but instead I got the new ventilation kit installation (Bulletin 01-050/06 issued 11/21/2006). Two days ago, I smelled a strange odor in the car that I thought was the cars ahead of me and yesterday, my engine light CEL came on for the first time. The new ventilation kit involves disconnecting the battery, removing the extension manifold, installing a modified oil filler pipe and EVAP/fuel line bracket to the extension manifold, replacing the gaskets on the extension manifold, and installing a new PCV hose to he engine. There was a guy on this thread last week that said he had this done and got two CELs. I dropped my 8 at the dealer this morning and the first thing the service guy said was the Dipstick procedure does not involve the electrical system. But the Service Bulletin makes it clear it does involve the battery and three solenoids. Does anybody know of this happening to them after getting this warranty work done. I kind of wish I did not request it now.

nycgps 12-21-2007 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by bose (Post 2183565)
^^No worries, I'm not butthurt over it.

They stupid thing about them wanting to void my warranty is that I have the AEM intake which is the exact same thing as the Mazdaspeed intake. And that's what they wanted to void the warranty for. WTF.

Welcome to the world of *stupid fuxking dumbasses loaded dealership*

Its funny that last time when my clutch bracket broke, they said it has something to do with the clutch. What a freaking joke. and Mazda Tech line said this is a *one time* repair only. I guess if it breaks again while still under warranty and they refuse to fix it. I will have my friend's father to go after their asses. Its good to know some lawyers who will do stuff for you for free ya know :)

nycgps 12-21-2007 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by bobafpe (Post 2203870)
Well, Last Monday, I put my 05 MT in to have the warranty work done to replace the condesation in the tail light and the milky stuff on the dipstick bofore I kit 5ok miles. I thought I would get a :banghead: dipstick sleeve installed, but instead I got the new ventilation kit installation (Bulletin 01-050/06 issued 11/21/2006). Two days ago, I smelled a strange odor in the car that I thought was the cars ahead of me and yesterday, my engine light CEL came on for the first time. The new ventilation kit involves disconnecting the battery, removing the extension manifold, installing a modified oil filler pipe and EVAP/fuel line bracket to the extension manifold, replacing the gaskets on the extension manifold, and installing a new PCV hose to he engine. There was a guy on this thread last week that said he had this done and got two CELs. I dropped my 8 at the dealer this morning and the first thing the service guy said was the Dipstick procedure does not involve the electrical system. But the Service Bulletin makes it clear it does involve the battery and three solenoids. Does anybody know of this happening to them after getting this warranty work done. I kind of wish I did not request it now.

Thats probably one of the reasons why when I had the SSV CEL, I refuse to go back to the dealership for the fix. Hell they were trying to blame it on my K&N Intake, what a bunch of dumbasses. if they can blame it on K&N for something totally not related, why would I trust them to be able to replace the solenoid ?

I know it's just not moving well, after a couple of *open close open close open close* on highway the CEL never came back.

This Milky thing is completely harmless, people just being paranoid, now you wish you did not request it ? I think you should wish that they did not *fuxked* your car up when they were trying to install the thing. u know, cut some wrong wires, u know, short something, u know .... most dealerships are running by bunch of idiots.

bobafpe 12-21-2007 10:44 AM

Thanks for the support. I'll just have to see if they fix it. Bob

nycgps 12-21-2007 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by bobafpe (Post 2203896)
Thanks for the support. I'll just have to see if they fix it. Bob

Good luck man ! :)

let us know how it goes.

Delmeister 12-22-2007 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by bobafpe (Post 2203870)
Well, Last Monday, I put my 05 MT in to have the warranty work done to replace the condesation in the tail light and the milky stuff on the dipstick bofore I kit 5ok miles. I thought I would get a :banghead: dipstick sleeve installed, but instead I got the new ventilation kit installation (Bulletin 01-050/06 issued 11/21/2006). Two days ago, I smelled a strange odor in the car that I thought was the cars ahead of me and yesterday, my engine light CEL came on for the first time. The new ventilation kit involves disconnecting the battery, removing the extension manifold, installing a modified oil filler pipe and EVAP/fuel line bracket to the extension manifold, replacing the gaskets on the extension manifold, and installing a new PCV hose to he engine. There was a guy on this thread last week that said he had this done and got two CELs. I dropped my 8 at the dealer this morning and the first thing the service guy said was the Dipstick procedure does not involve the electrical system. But the Service Bulletin makes it clear it does involve the battery and three solenoids. Does anybody know of this happening to them after getting this warranty work done. I kind of wish I did not request it now.

Hello, this is the guy with no name speaking. The first CEL was code P0410, Secondary Air Injection. There are three solenoids (electrical) with three vacuum hose outputs. He got two of the hoses interchanged despite the fact that they are clearly colour coded. I also got CEL code P0171, System too lean. The car pinged. It turned out he also disconnected of forgot to reconnect some vacuum hose. If the mod is done right, you will be glad you did it. It works. And despite whether it is necessary or not, you will be able to check the oil, and any potential buyers won't freak from viewing the froth. Good luck with your dealer. I actually had to show the service manager the mistake made. They had another mechanic redo the work. The first mechanic did not get paid for his time, and was pretty humiliated by the second who took great glee in pointing out the fkups.

nycgps 12-22-2007 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by Delmeister (Post 2205662)
Hello, this is the guy with no name speaking. The first CEL was code P0410, Secondary Air Injection. There are three solenoids (electrical) with three vacuum hose outputs. He got two of the hoses interchanged despite the fact that they are clearly colour coded. I also got CEL code P0171, System too lean. The car pinged. It turned out he also disconnected of forgot to reconnect some vacuum hose. If the mod is done right, you will be glad you did it. It works. And despite whether it is necessary or not, you will be able to check the oil, and any potential buyers won't freak from viewing the froth. Good luck with your dealer. I actually had to show the service manager the mistake made. They had another mechanic redo the work. The first mechanic did not get paid for his time, and was pretty humiliated by the second who took great glee in pointing out the fkups.

This is a problem with our economic system.

Minimum Wage, Minimum Effort.

Enuff said.

Gish 01-02-2008 07:49 PM

I'm completely stock and just saw this for the first time tonight. The cold thing would make sense as it is well below freezing here.

mdsteph3093 01-24-2008 06:48 PM

I have the milky buildup on my dipstick also. I called the local dealer and he said that they had a few RX 8's come in with the same problem and they were changing out the dipstick???!!!

Mystykalbaby 02-01-2008 12:52 PM

i picked up some lucas or risolene oil stabilizing gel and it took car of problem altogether

ManicMechanic 02-09-2008 05:31 PM

Everyone Stop Freaking Out!!!!!

ManicMechanic 02-09-2008 05:34 PM

This condition is normal according to a TSB released by Mazda. It is indeed condensation that develops at the dipstick tube. It is not in the engine, that is unless your 8's coolant level is constantly low. An oily film on top of the coolant only means it needs to be changed.

ManicMechanic 02-09-2008 05:40 PM

You can confirm this with ANY garage that is A.S.E. certified. It does not have to be a Mazda dealer. However, if you can't stand to see this (which I can't) there is a vent kit that can be installed to alleviate this "problem". Idk what it costs, or how involved the installation is, I skimmed through the procedure, and the throttle body, and intake extentions need to be removed. As long as the coolant isn't low, don't worry. If you are in KY (which no one with an 8 is) look me up. I will let you know how it turns out.

Pastrulo 02-28-2008 01:11 PM

Just got my new 2005 with 7000 miles, Picked it up north of Orlando and drove it 250 miles down to Miami (in cold weather averaging 90mph-4000 rpm's) with brand new oil. This car was recently serviced by the dealership, I went to check the oil this morning and there it was "capuccino foam" all over the dipstick. Freaked me out at first, but after reading this thread I guess it's normal.
Relief.

nycgps 02-28-2008 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Pastrulo (Post 2321356)
Just got my new 2005 with 7000 miles, Picked it up north of Orlando and drove it 250 miles down to Miami (in cold weather averaging 90mph-4000 rpm's) with brand new oil. This car was recently serviced by the dealership, I went to check the oil this morning and there it was "capuccino foam" all over the dipstick. Freaked me out at first, but after reading this thread I guess it's normal.
Relief.

its just tiny bit of water foaming up on ur dipstick, no biggy

90rotorhead 02-29-2008 06:34 PM

if you are out of warranty the dealer wants to charge 600 bucks to fix this issue


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