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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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Sick *** ruler Easy, where you get it?
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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Sick *** ruler Easy, where you get it?
I bought mine from Matco. This is Mazdamaniacs. But any any Autoparts/Sears/Harbor Freight, tool place will have them. Anywhere from $$20.00 to $200.00. Depends on the model and manufacturer. Of course you get what you pay for too.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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Thanks.... I will measure mine right now....
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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$200 bucks??? Jesus, I better get a BJ with it!!!
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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Ok... the first is almost the same... i cant really tell on the second pic.... is your ruler in the middle....
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:29 AM
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its the same....

Last edited by Spyderjhv1997; Sep 8, 2009 at 12:33 AM.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:53 AM
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When you attempt to start the car, does the starter spin the flywheel.. meaning, does the engine crank like it wants to start?
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Spyderjhv1997
Ok... the first is almost the same... i cant really tell on the second pic.... is your ruler in the middle....
It's on the right side/back of the bendix gear hole.
Does the starter sit flush against the bell housing when installed?
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by xun4gvn4everx
Sick *** ruler Easy, where you get it?
Its called a digital caliper.
I have one by Mitutoyo.
Anyone who troubleshoots should have one and you do get what you pay for.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:59 AM
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how much you pay for urs?
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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I'm starting to think that the starter(s) are fine.
Maybe when his original starter died, it caused his car to flood.
He mentioned seeing markings on the flywheel, but how do we know that the new starters caused it?
Those markings could have been there from the original starter.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by xun4gvn4everx
how much you pay for urs?
Here is a whole bunch to look at. Find one that fits your needs and buy it.

Digital Calipers
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by xun4gvn4everx
how much you pay for urs?
Ummm... my work was nice enough to let me "borrow" them

But we get ours from McMaster-Carr:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#mitutoyo-di...lipers/=3jcjwa
They are on the higher price side like Easy mentioned they could be, but you want a good caliper that has a certification of calibration if your measurements need to be accurate.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
I'm starting to think that the starter(s) are fine.
Maybe when his original starter died, it caused his car to flood.
He mentioned seeing markings on the flywheel, but how do we know that the new starters caused it?
Those markings could have been there from the original starter.
Marking on the edge of the ring gear is pretty normal. Due to the engagement of the bendix gear.
I would expect he could hear the starter spinning at a high rpm if it's not hitting the flywheel. A bit different from the sound of the engine turning over and not starting.
But if the end of the starter is the same, then it should be engaging the flywheel and turning the engine over. I don't know if the engine is turning over or not.
Unless his battery is week. But then it would just click.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Here is a whole bunch to look at. Find one that fits your needs and buy it.

Digital Calipers
Thanx bro

Originally Posted by Jon316G
Ummm... my work was nice enough to let me "borrow" them

But we get ours from McMaster-Carr:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#mitutoyo-di...lipers/=3jcjwa
They are on the higher price side like Easy mentioned they could be, but you want a good caliper that has a certification of calibration if your measurements need to be accurate.
I know alot about them, my company orders a mojority of our simple products from them, they are reliable and diverse.



Thanx dudes!!!
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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But if the end of the starter is the same, then it should be engaging the flywheel and turning the engine over. I don't know if the engine is turning over or not.
That's what I'm wonder.
If the engine is turning over, then the starter is doing its job and he may just have a flooded engine caused by his original starter that failed.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Marking on the edge of the ring gear is pretty normal. Due to the engagement of the bendix gear.
I would expect he could hear the starter spinning at a high rpm if it's not hitting the flywheel. A bit different from the sound of the engine turning over and not starting.
But if the end of the starter is the same, then it should be engaging the flywheel and turning the engine over. I don't know if the engine is turning over or not.
Unless his battery is week. But then it would just click.
i agree 100%. but he already said her replaced the battey with a high CCA battery, so I don't think that would be the issue
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by xun4gvn4everx
i agree 100%. but he already said her replaced the battey with a high CCA battery, so I don't think that would be the issue
I know I was just making a reference to sounds.
Find a caliper you like yet? I have always wanted one of these. Would make life simpler.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 01:33 AM
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I gotcha, didn't pick up the reference, but on the reread, I do. And no, havn't picked out one yet, still working on getting a new ride
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Old Dec 12, 2015 | 08:02 PM
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so is the answer to this just flooded????!? or not? im having the same exact answer new battery only a couple months old. and brand new starter put it into today, earlier this morning my starter died, (its been slowly dying) so i did the install everything is perfectly fine and connected. i used the diy post. and just read this entire thread, and was hoping to find the answer, but then it just died
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Old Dec 12, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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Have you tried running the de-flooding procedure to see if it is the problem?
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 09:45 PM
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Did anyone find an answer to this ? Having the same problem need help asap
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 04:33 PM
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Having the same problem. My old starter (original from 05) died, over the past 12 months I have watched the RPM slowly decrease. The other day the inevitable happened and it would no longer turn the engine fast enough to start it.

I ordered a replacement and it would spin just fine, but was not engaging the flywheel. Returned it and ordered another from a different source. Same result, starter spins but will not engage the flywheel.

After reading this and other threads I pulled the starter again to check the gear on the flywheel that is engaged by the starter (to see if it had come loose). Everything appears to be fine.

I have tried jumping using another car to eliminate the battery as a cause, and engaging the key multiple times quickly with no luck.

I have also swapped the starter relay under the hood.

Is there anything else in this circuit that might be failing?
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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You can look at a diagram here.

Normalexception.net - Documents
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
You can look at a diagram here.

Normalexception.net - Documents
Thanks for the link

I have now bench tested the starter and it is working properly.

I also inspected the gear at the outside edge of the flywheel and it seems to be in good shape and securely fixed in place.
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