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Old 10-10-2010, 03:18 AM
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if thats the case he will be burning apex seals
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Not burning oil at all, but I have not drivin it enough to measure the amount that SHOULD be gone to lubricate the seals. I had a blown engine before this one and the amount of smoke was much more than this, it smelt like oil unlike this, and it had oil building up at the end of the tailpipe while this one has a yellow liquid crap. I will take a pic of the yellow crap to show you what I mean.
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Here are the pics of what builds up at the end of the tailpipe.


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No one knows what this could be? Has me stumped.
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that is something that happens when a CAT goes bad I believe but your CAT is gutted.
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Yeah, the cat is completely gutted and it's not like anything was left in there causing this, it's just the pipe.
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i honestly think its being you dont have the custom tune yet. Your running the car with the stock map yet your car is FI.
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That seams to be the main culprit, but could that really cause smoke like this? I mean the car doesn't know it is FI because of the stock map so it shouldn't really be doing anything different. The only thing that has changed is the intake system obviously and that the exhaust is running through a turbo now. How can that cause smoke?
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Originally Posted by jDt!
That seams to be the main culprit, but could that really cause smoke like this? I mean the car doesn't know it is FI because of the stock map so it shouldn't really be doing anything different. The only thing that has changed is the intake system obviously and that the exhaust is running through a turbo now. How can that cause smoke?
have you ran some data logs with your Accessport? lets see what kind of numbers you get.
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Yeah, I ran the logs for the tune service, I'll post those right now.

Well I don't know how to post anything, but the data logs. I have the data logs, but can't post a pic, just the file

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you may want to pm jeff with MazdaManiacs and have him skim over the numbers
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That's who is tuning my 8. I sent him the data logs over a week ago and am just waiting the results.
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if you goto advanced post than click management. that should allow you to post them on here for us.
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if you goto advanced post than click management. that should allow you to post them on here for us.
I don't have pics, just the microsoft excel docs. That's the way they come off the AP
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No one knows!
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so the easy way to do that is. open the document and hit print screen button on the keyboard. then open microsoft paint and push ctrl+v. After that your screen shot should show up and you can crop it to a proper size and save it as .jpg. wallah photo of it completed.
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Does that work? Posted of my car in 4th gear at 4.5k rpm traveling at about 65mph
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I checked my data (but remember i am NA) and at that speed and approx rpms, My long term and short term were the same at -0.16 off the base map. I dont think FI should really be that different though so I am assuming your trims are goofed up.
You should in the mean time post that data in the thread "Cobb datalogs" to see if those guys could be more help and also attach the thread you started here for them to get your history.
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read this while taking your numbers into account
http://stealth316.com/misc/obdii_fuel_trim.pdf
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Still no diagnosis of the problem. Any more suggestions? It seems like this is becoming an episode of House but with cars. I need answers!
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Originally Posted by jDt!
Does that work? Posted of my car in 4th gear at 4.5k rpm traveling at about 65mph

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you have -9% fuel trims and are still running 21% too rich for the load condition on that log . So about a 30% too much fuel would be called for if you reset your trims to zero .

Some possible causes :
Maf housing is too small . What are you useing - stock greddy turbo maf housing ?
Some other disturbance to your maf
large vacuum leak

Not sure if that level of fuel would cause the smoke but it's a good place to start ...

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Also : there is no way MM is going to be able to tune your car while it is like this .
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Originally Posted by Brettus
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you have -9% fuel trims and are still running 21% too rich for the load condition on that log . So about a 30% too much fuel would be called for if you reset your trims to zero . Your mass airflow (indicated by that log) is double what mine shows for the same throttle position at that speed/rpm.

Some possible causes :
Maf housing is too small . What are you useing - stock greddy turbo maf housing ?
Some other disturbance to your maf
large vacuum leak

Not sure if that level of fuel would cause the smoke but it's a good place to start ...
Most helpful response yet! so what does the trim say about the car running rich? Which seems to be the explanation that makes the most sense because of the smell of it. What about the yellow substance in the pictures? Is that expended fuel or what? I will check all my vacuum lines, but it doesn't sound like I have one. My MAF housing IS the stock greddy one. I recently checked my intake housing and maf area and it was clear. I don't believe I have any cracked hoses in the intercooler system/ intake system, but if I did could that be the cause? And if I did wouldn't there be some other symptoms?
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Also : there is no way MM is going to be able to tune your car while it is like this .
.....and I was hoping he could take care of the situation. Please point me in the right direction so I can fix this problem to get it tuned before I deploy, thank you.
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It's a pretty good bet that the shop that did the install has fuxxed up the vacuum hose connections . If you can do a diagram of how all the vac hoses are hooked up I might be able to see what is wrong .


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