staticlag

So today I took my 8 in for the gas tank recall work and for the flash.

So I got it done, and yet I noticed that the trip mile counter was not reset, then I went into my Nav hidden info screen and looked at the main computer flash version, and it was still saying 'M.'

Have others had their trip counters reset when going in for the flash?

Gambit

I asked for it but the guy said he couldn't do anything without a recall....probly because he was a lazy slob.

There's a sticker under your hood with the flash code and a date on it

lurch519

let it warm up, once its is in operation temp for 5 minutes, hold it at 9k for 15 secs, if it drops by itself, it was flashed. if not, take it back and bitch

zoom44

the nav cant see what pcm level you are on?!?! why would your trip counter be reset? what doe sthe paperwork say they did? why does anyone leave teh dealer not understanding what was doen to thecar? i always have them go over each thignthey did.

staticlag

Here is what my Invoice says:

#1 - 99P Free mazda full circle service report card inspection

yada yada, everything ok

#2 - Customer Reports: Recall for Engine no start, lack of power
Corrected by: XX682XRX:
Work Performed by RYAN BEASLEY (234)
Reprogrammed PCM
XX682XRX / 0.3 HRS.

#3 - Customer Reports: Recall for Fuel Issue
Caused by: FOUND NO THERMAL DAMAGE
Corrected by: XXB072R2:
Work Performed by RYAN BEASLEY (234)
Installed F1Y1-42-76X :PAD
PLACED THE PAD ON THE TANK
REPROGRAMMED THE PCM
XXB072R2 .7

So I warmed it up and held it at about 9K for thirty seconds, nothing. I felt very uneasy doing this and kept it just very very slightly below 9K. No shutdown, nothing.

Here is a pic of what my nav says:

staticlag

I would think if they actually reflashed it, that the trip counter would reset!

lurch519

they didnt flash it then. my trip was not reset when they did mine, but the flash was done correctly. if you have access to hymee's scanalyser, you can reference the pcm flash number to the one i posted here elsewhere

zoom44

that says they reprogrammed it. the fact that you didnt hold it at 9 mean you cant tell from your test. the rpm gauge doesnt read the same as what the pcm is seeing. the nav screen isnt showing you jack about the pcm calibration level. they did both the MSP04 work and the 3305 recall- both require a reflash- that means they did one to cover both because both say " to the newest flashlevel."

the charged .7 for the rcall work- mazda only pays them .6

staticlag

I thought it only had to be at 8500 rpms for ten seconds to revert to 900 rpms.

I mean the needle was just slightly slightly below the 9000 rpm tick mark, and I only held it there because i accidently hit the rev limited and threw a CEL when I was trying to keep it at 9000

How much can the gauge be off I thought it was only off 200 rpms or so?

what does that mean for the .7? does that mean that they are cheating the dealership? or just mazda hq?

zoom44

thats how much time the tech said it took him. .7 hours. however mazda is only paying .6 hours. so that means the .1 hour extra will come out of the dealerships money and not mazda's pocket.

msrecant

I had the same experience, they did both MSP04 and the 3305 recall at the same time. Yet, there is no indication that the battery was ever disconnected (ODO, radio settings, etc).

So I have no idea what PCM calibration is now installed (used to be M). The tech claims that he just picks "newest flashlevel" and the software picks the right one for my VIN. He never looked on the screen to see which one actually was installed.

I assume that the 3305 recall change was only added to the R calibration, but who knows. I try to get them to read it up when I take it back for the ball-joint recall (parts on order).

Hotsauce

Staticlag, How do I get to the NAV hidden info screen?

Feras

iTrader: (1)

go to the version screen then hit up up up down down down up up down down (im not kidding the nav has nintendo style cheat codes lol)

pcimino

I'm not sure those versions are the ECU, they might just be the Nav version?

KYLiquid

Im another person that the dealer has done this recall 2 times now, and both times they say its done, it isnt....reading the recall on how the car is supposed to act after the flash and before....it acts like it did before.....

so now 2 weekends, 4 hrs of my time and half a tank of gas later.....NOTHING

how many others have gotten the recall....did you check to see if its really done?

1zzy

Like I posted prior in some thread, I had to physically point out to them on the printed recall instructions (Rosenthal website) that they had to add the thermal pad for my car (Group 1)- which they didn't do when I came to pick up my car because the tech thought it said only to add the pad if my car "DID" experience any of the above problems. Had to point out the word "NOT" after it before the tech's eyes glazed over and wait another hour for my car. I also asked for the PCM file information and it was for the 'S' Flash. My counter wasn't reset for those interested.

cleoent

Feras, i just tried that and for some reason after i go up up up down down down up up it takes me to a screen before i can do the down down part... wtf am i doing wrong? It takes to a screen with all sorts of different options, i did it very carefully and it's just not working...

cleoent

btw i just figured it out and i know i have the reflash complete and my screen reads just like yours.

Hold the gas at 4k for 2 mins, it should come back down, that's how i tested mine, take it for a 10 minute drive first though, it should be completely warmed up.

staticlag

Okay, I left the dealer a message yesterday and told him about my flash and all and heres the summarized version of what he said when he called me back this morning:
He said:

I checked into your file and the technician did update your computer.

So I told him:

The reason why I was so skeptical about you guys updating the computer, was because I did a test to determine the new flash and it didn't do what it was supposed to do.

He said:

A test? I don't know of any way that you could do anything to determine what computer level you are on.

So I told him about the heating pad and how it was placed there because of stationary idle concerns, and how the updated PCM is geared with a rpm failsafe feature.

Then he said:

As far as newest flashes, there is none! We just updated the computer to the latest version. If you have been reading the forums, rx8club.com there is no R flash available.

Hmm, :rollseyes:

cleoent

go to another dealer, or call mazda usa. To be sure i would go and take a 10-15 minute drive, comeback and sit in your car and idle it at 4k, if after 2 mins it doesn't idle down then you know you've been ripped.

I would not ever recommend holding an engine at redline in neutral, that's just asking for trouble. Also search the site here, there is a post explaining what the new software does, print it out and take it to the idiots.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

no no you did it right, i havent done it in a while there's no down down sorry lol

Vizacar

I took my car in on July 25th, for the first oil change, and had them check on recalls, and my invoice says they 'Performed Recall 33056' (yes it is a 6 and not a G). He only flashed me. He never inspected anything on the undercarriage. I know, cause I was standing 6 feet away watching the whole time. He definitely didn't install the mat even though I am group 1. Don't think they had them in stock yet.

I'm waiting on my letter then will readdress it with them and then go elsewhere.

pcimino

You may not get a letter if they entered the work into the system. I know I had my 8 in the day that the dealer said they finally got all the info, so they did the work.

That was 3 or 4 weeks ago. Haven't seen any letters yet.

My car is group 1 (Oct 03 build date).

weekendwrench

I took my 04 RX8 in last Friday for the recall. I was heading out of town so I just had them lock it up when the were done. I picked it up Saturday night. The work order only shows .70 hrs gas tank inspection. It doesn't say if they put the heat shield in. It doesn't say they reflashed the ECM. I checked all the places that they are supposed to put the sticker to show that the work was done but there is no sticker anywhere.

My car was built May 04. I bought it new in April 05. I have no way of knowing if any flash has ever been done. The 2 times I have had it in for oil changes and asked the service writer about it he just says "there were no updates for your car".

It is very frustrating not to know.

msrecant

Although the TSBs always talk about putting on the stickers, I do not believe that most (any?) service departments do this. They simply update the car's current status, by VIN, in (what I assume to be is) a centralized Mazda maintenance database.

From this thread, it also sounds like for the 3305G recall, they only do the flash and the inspection. Unless they find damage they don't seem to do anything else. They take 15 minutes to do both MSP04 and 3305G at the same time (one PCM update double billed) and they can then bill mazda for an hour of time.