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Old 11-21-2015, 08:41 AM
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Is the occasional "long crank" thing normal?

Originally Posted by Nisaja
So this is for the occasional long crank when cold... but what about when hot? Just like the OP, about 1/20 times my car would take about 2-2.5 seconds to start. It feels as if it's not getting fuel for the first second, and then starts up immediately.

I wonder if the OP found a solution.
Well, there are PLENTY of threads out there about starting issues. Especially hot.

However, 2ish seconds isn't long. If you feel it is an issue, start with the basic troubleshooting (ignition, fuel, etc). Read the starting issues sticky.
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Originally Posted by RX8Soldier
Well, there are PLENTY of threads out there about starting issues. Especially hot.

However, 2ish seconds isn't long. If you feel it is an issue, start with the basic troubleshooting (ignition, fuel, etc). Read the starting issues sticky.
I have checked a fair amount of threads. None of them explained my issue. This thread was the only one that described my issue precisely. My car has 2000 miles with original plugs, coils and wires, so it can't be ignition. I would assume it's a compression issue, but if that's the case, it should happen every time it's hot. This happens randomly
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Have you read the starting issues start here sticky in the troubleshooting subforum?
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Originally Posted by RX8Soldier
Have you read the starting issues start here sticky in the troubleshooting subforum?
Yep. Tested all except compression check and fuel pump. But my car starts perfectly fine when hot, and the car doesn't stop abruptly, like typical fuel pump failure. In fact, it doesn't stop at all. Just wondering why it takes a little longer to start every now and then. It's nothing too serious so I guess I'll just live with it.

On a side note, my 2008 Mazda 3 has developed a "mildly warm" start issue I can start it in the mornings immediately. But stopping the car, leaving it for 3+ hours and starting would make it crank for about 4 seconds and start up immediately. Oh well
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Hey Nisaja, it sounds like you may have a small fuel leak somewhere.
Your fuel system can leak, lowering the fuel pump pressure while it sits.
It would be a good idea to ensure it's not leaking on the engine or exhaust.
That could be bad.
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Originally Posted by BigCajun
Hey Nisaja, it sounds like you may have a small fuel leak somewhere.
Your fuel system can leak, lowering the fuel pump pressure while it sits.
It would be a good idea to ensure it's not leaking on the engine or exhaust.
That could be bad.
This has been coming up more and more often. At lest that I've noticed.
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Originally Posted by RX8 pearl red
Well you got this right. Fuel pipe was leaking in the engine bay right behind the Air box. Leaking was minor but i think it was enough to lose fuel pressure overnight. Thanks for pointing me in right direction and to solve this problem for me.

No more long cold starts now...yayyyy
This is what I saw a few days ago.
9k pointed to it.
It pays to read a whole thread sometimes.
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Originally Posted by RX8Soldier
This has been c
ming up more and more often. At lest that I've noticed.
Yeah, my fuel pump went out a few months ago.
There's been a lot of talk about them recently.
Mine went out without warning, started dying while driving one day.
I had no cold starting issues prior to it.
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Originally Posted by BigCajun
Hey Nisaja, it sounds like you may have a small fuel leak somewhere.
Your fuel system can leak, lowering the fuel pump pressure while it sits.
It would be a good idea to ensure it's not leaking on the engine or exhaust.
That could be bad.
Yes, I read the whole thread and am aware of that. But if it's a fuel leak, it would only happen when the engine has been left off for a while. To me, this random long crank can happen right after turning the engine off and starting it. In my first post on this thread, I was referring to the OP's issue. RX8 Pearl Red's issue was about long COLD starts only.
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Originally Posted by Nisaja
In my first post on this thread, I was referring to the OP's issue. RX8 Pearl Red's issue was about long COLD starts only.
And this is what is being responded to. COLD start issues have been occurring quite a bit recently. 9k pointed out that it could be an issue with a leaking fuel pump, amongst other things.
Just keep reading/ troubleshooting and you'll eventually solve your issue
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Originally Posted by Nisaja
Yes, I read the whole thread and am aware of that. But if it's a fuel leak, ...
It's possible that there is more than one problem.
It may be a small fuel leak causing problems during cold starts.
The fuel pump could be getting weak, causing problems during hot starts.
The relay 9k mentioned could be going bad, causing intermittent problems anytime.
It could be all 3.
Look for a fuel leak, since that can actually cause a fire, eliminate that possibility first.
Then change the relay, it's cheap, so why not?
Then verify the fuel pump pressure is adequate hot or cold.
Could be totally unrelated. Who knows?
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Originally Posted by BigCajun
It's possible that there is more than one problem.
It may be a small fuel leak causing problems during cold starts.
The fuel pump could be getting weak, causing problems during hot starts.
The relay 9k mentioned could be going bad, causing intermittent problems anytime.
It could be all 3.
Look for a fuel leak, since that can actually cause a fire, eliminate that possibility first.
Then change the relay, it's cheap, so why not?
Then verify the fuel pump pressure is adequate hot or cold.
Could be totally unrelated. Who knows?
Thanks for the info BigCajun. I will give them a shot specially the fuel pump pressure test.
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