speeddemon32

I did a search could not find anything on this topic.

I just put Sprint drop springs in my car, looks great i must add, but it seems to me like the DCS is kicking in sooner then it should. I dont know if its just me, or if it really is kicking in sooner. mabe i am just trying to push it harder???
anyone else have this problem?


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also i must add that when turning off the DCS and shifting into second under "spirited driving" the RX-8 has no problem getting compleatly sideways. found this out last night while testing the effects of the lowerd car with and without traction controll.

rx8pilot

take some video of you going sideways in second....would like to see that.. i have the same power car as u i'm assuming..(no fi?) and i can barely get the wheels to chirp from 1st unless i'm dropping the clutch from 5k and up..

if dsc is a problem for u..just turn it off...either partial..(one tap) or all the way..(hold it about 7 or so seconds)

speeddemon32

huh, thats odd, i can break the tires loose on command (with DCS off ) and obviously as i found out last night, shifting ffrom first to second (yes the roads were dry :D ) put me sideways. wasnt expecting that one.

anyways, how is it that DCS is only partially off when taping the button? all i did was tap it, i have never heald it. i cant imagine more of a an "off" then i get when i tap it. ill have to try it.

anyways, i take it no one has noticed there cars DCS working "sooner" then normal with a lowered car vs. stock???

Mabe i was just trying harder

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is it DCS or DSC? cant remember what it stands for right this second.

automaton

A possible explanation is that, assuming the springs are firmer (since they are obviously shorter), your rear tires aren't "loading up" as much from the weight transfering to the rear suspension under heavy acceleration. I've heard this before about 240sx's with lowering/former springs.

devoid

ummm, did you get a new alignment....cause yeah, you need that when messing with suspension. Just thought I'd ask! (that goes for all 4 wheels) This will affect the stance of the wheel on the pavement, and thus its traction, so if the wheels (front and back) don't have a proper alignment, then the tires will not be sitting in full contact with the road when driving, and thus allow for easier slipage....thus you note the traction control coming on sooner.

Hope that helps!

devoid

Dynamic Stability Control - Thus DSC

Also, tapping the button turns off traction control, leaving on DSC.
Holding down the button will disable the DSC AND traction control.

You'll know by the constant light that comes on in your dash.

Also, note: to turn either back on, you need to restart the car!

speeddemon32

whats the diferance between traction control and DSC?

yes i did get an alighment.

if i turn the traction control off, then the car grips like no other. but if i leave it one then the car "thinks" its about to lose control and traction control kicks in what apears to be sooner then it should. dont get me wrong, its not like it takes over in every easy turn, but it does seem like it kicks in sooner then it did before.

to sum it up, it SEEMS like it wont let me push it as hard with traction control on as before. does this make sence?

like i said before, it might just be my imagination. since there are not a lot of people saying "I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM" my quess is its just me. :D

Red Devil

Never heard of Sprint springs. Where did you get them? Are these cut springs?

LittleJohn

I have a totally stock 8, and I have no probs getting the rear end to break loose into first, and chirping in second is no probs either and I sometimes get a slight chirp going into 3rd.
Btw, I'm still on the original RE40s and have about 24000kms on the odo.

So I'm not surprised that you can get it sideways in second.

Mr M

Perfectly understandable that DSC works differently when you have different springs, or a different stabilizer. Less body roll for the same steering wheel angle? The DSC thinks you are sliding...

Nubo

Did you change wheels?

speeddemon32

this makes a lot of sense! the only thing that doesnt, i thought it also went of G-force. it should not be picking up to high of a g-force. although the less body roll to steering ange makes total sense, it does have to be in a tighter turn.

all well, its really no big deal, like i said, it works ok untill i step on it. ill just have to turn it off when i feel like playing.

SPRINT springs are very large. not as large ad Eibach, but pretty well known. they are a total of 1.75" drop :D

wheels are stock :o

whats the diferance between traction control and DSC?

RX3+5

More camber = less rubber on the road.

Vince

devoid

Aside from spelling....
Traction control is sticktly for the rear wheels. The traction control helps the rear wheels from freely spinning, just like any other car with traction control. If one power wheel is slipping, it tries to shift power to the wheel that's not slipping as much.

DSC - again I say stands for Dynamic Stability Control. This is a system of sensors on all four wheels that pick up a variety of conditions. The purpose of this system is to attempt to keep the car going in the direction you want, but most importantly to keep the car from spinning out of control. This system can control individual brakes on all four wheels to keep the car going straight say when hitting a sudden puddle on the right side, which would normally vear you right, or when braking, which could sometimes also vear you in a direction. The DSC works in cornering and aggressive driving by keeping the back end in check. Check throughout the forum, and you will note many an accident accredited to having turned off the DSC....so beware.

Red Devil

1.75" is a heck of drop.

speeddemon32

got an alighnment, they were able to get it really close.

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when i turn off DSC, this is when the car will do what i want, (you know get stupid doing burnouts and stuff.) so if i were to turn off the traction control, what would be the differance. what would the car do differant then it does when i just turn the DSC off?

speeddemon32

i couldent be happyer with the way it looks. i am suprised. i am used to cutting spring and slaming my cars, but on a much nicer car i opted to go with real drop springs for a change..... WOW..... looks great, rides better then factory. (suprising) i love them! :D

Red Devil

If you like it and it's working for you, sounds good to me. I was making the comment more because I would think you'd be possibly overwhelming the capacity of the factory shocks?

Are you having any new issues with clearances, or in parking lots and ramps, etc...?