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Old Dec 27, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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Hand Break doesn't lock Rear wheels to drift

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So I changed my break rotors from the stock ones to some drilled and slotted + steel break lines from rx7store.net. After having them installed I tried to drift by pulling the hand break but it did not work. It has been like that for a while.
I took the car to a shop, they adjusted the hand break and still was unable to drift.
Took the car to Mazda and they told me that the car is supposed to be like that. That is not supposed to drift when u pull the hand brake. How can that be true if when I got the car brand new it used to be like that like in any FWD or RWD car?
Lastly, I took to this shop and they said that it was due to the break pads.. I got 2 different break pads style...one ceramic, and the other the stock ones. It didn't work. They also said that the rotors needed to be resurfaced.. They did that to both rear and front break rotors and still doesn't work. Now there's even this squeaking irritating noise on the front breaks..like a whistle.

I need help, please!

Thanks for your attention.
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Old Dec 27, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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Why dont you just ask these retards?.....Yo

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...rift+technique
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:12 AM
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Fit Hawk HP+ pads to the rears and you'll drift like a pro ..... YO !
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by lateralus
^Ha wtf!... Will someone please translate that?... Please?
Translation is that will get deleted.

If you really want to focus on using this drift technice then why not install one of those big levers with a direct link to pad. I'm not into drifting but I would assume this would fix the issue.

I really don't get the drift snobbery, around here. Perhaps had the OPs question been formulated a little more formally he would have gotten a better response.

OH and OP don't go to Mazda and talk to them about anything.

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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:02 AM
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Haha. That made me lol.


Wait, you're not serious are you?
Lol.... I'm serious... I like to use the hand break as well... It is very helpful..

Is it that complicated the way I explained what happened?

Basically the rear breaks don't lock. Parking in hills it's alright, it will lock at speed zero, but if I'm in movement it won't do much beside reduce merely the speed.. Before I had put these new break lines, hawk p+ ceramic pads and drilled and slotted rotors it would lock and make the car have some stopping reaction.

Is it clear now?
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt_Nasty
Translation is that will get deleted.

If you really want to focus on using this drift technice then why not install one of those big levers with a direct link to pad. I'm not into drifting but I would assume this would fix the issue.

I really don't get the drift snobbery, around here. Perhaps had the OPs question been formulated a little more formally he would have gotten a better response.

OH and OP don't do to Mazda and talk to then about anything.

It's not snobbery. It's just that drifting is like street racing, 90% of the "drifters" are doing it on the street so they are endangering peoples lives. My favorite photo spot is getting difficult to shoot in because the security guards are running everyone off due to these dipshit drifters trying to renact the Tokyo drift scene in the parking garage.

Luckily I go out of my way to track down the security guards and let them know why i am there and they are cool with me being there. But I totally understand, it's a new parking garage and it's already full of tire marks and paint scraped all over the pillars where these dumb-asses hit the walls.

Now if he can post up some pics of him drifting at an actual event then I will respond with a worthwhile technical response. But I think the chances of him doing that are slim to none.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
It's not snobbery. It's just that drifting is like street racing, 90% of the "drifters" are doing it on the street so they are endangering peoples lives.
We can not assume that. There are amateur and professional drift series around the world that isn't done on the street. Are we to shutdown discussion of track racing and autocross just because there are street racers? That is retorical and correct answer is no. I will treat trolling of drifting thread the same as critics of automatic transmissions.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
We can not assume that. There are amateur and professional drift series around the world that isn't done on the street. Are we to shutdown discussion of track racing and autocross just because there are street racers? That is retorical and correct answer is no. I will treat trolling of drifting thread the same as critics of automatic transmissions.
Thanks, Al.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Grammar **** stepping in because it seems to be spreading:

Are you breaking your car when using the brakes?
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by u.costa
Lol.... I'm serious... I like to use the hand break as well... It is very helpful..

Is it that complicated the way I explained what happened?

Basically the rear breaks don't lock. Parking in hills it's alright, it will lock at speed zero, but if I'm in movement it won't do much beside reduce merely the speed.. Before I had put these new break lines, hawk p+ ceramic pads and drilled and slotted rotors it would lock and make the car have some stopping reaction.

Is it clear now?
like I said earlier - go to some high coefficient of friction pads - like Hawk HP+ . There are probably others around with higher . Ask your brake supplier .
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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This is probably gonna be a stupid question, but ya never know haha..... You do have your traction control off don't you? And what speed are you usually going when you try to lock the wheels?
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
We can not assume that. There are amateur and professional drift series around the world that isn't done on the street. Are we to shutdown discussion of track racing and autocross just because there are street racers? That is retorical and correct answer is no. I will treat trolling of drifting thread the same as critics of automatic transmissions.
Yeah, I shouldn't assume I guess................
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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clutch kick yo but serious there are tracks for drifting
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mike[piston eater]
clutch kick yo but serious there are tracks for drifting
I realize that, I am not doubting drifting as a sport, I just doubt this guy is seriously drifting at a track event in the Lafayette area.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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He may have a big paved lot in his back yard just to practice, or an old private parking lot that is closed off and he has permission, you never know.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt_Nasty
He may have a big paved lot in his back yard just to practice, or an old private parking lot that is closed off and he has permission, you never know.
Yep, and maybe he is Tanner Faust in real life too.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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keep it on track fellas
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Yep, and maybe he is Tanner Faust in real life too.
Regardless, if some asks how to improve their heel toe technique, you wouldn't flame them because it's winter and most SCCA events are not happening would you? No, even though know you know it is likely that they are practicing this technique on the street, which can also be dangerous.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt_Nasty
Regardless, if some asks how to improve their heel toe technique, you wouldn't flame them because it's winter and most SCCA events are not happening would you? No, even though know you know it is likely that they are practicing this technique on the street, which can also be dangerous.

No one would post in the troubleshooting forum on how to improve their heel toe technique. Learning how to heel/toe on a internet forum is next to impossible. And Autox and other track events are going on every month Winter does not affect those here.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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Have you bedded the brakes properly? Use of your handbrake aside if the new pads are not biting and holding as well as you old ones you may just need to bed them in first.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
I realize that, I am not doubting drifting as a sport, I just doubt this guy is seriously drifting at a track event in the Lafayette area.
i ment for him to keep i on the track lol, there is events everywere if not he can find a huge empty lot and ask the owners for permission

although most wont give permission due to the high liability
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lateralus
This is probably gonna be a stupid question, but ya never know haha..... You do have your traction control off don't you? And what speed are you usually going when you try to lock the wheels?
Whenever i want to drift without the dsc I do it..since the hand break hasn't been working I've been drifting only with the dsc off and not using the hand break.

Ima start learning drifting at higher speeds with the dsc off but I will need the hand break to help correct my angle or to enter the drifting mode for those who know what I mean.

I try to lock my breaks in low speeds, like 20mph and lower.. It's nothing.. It's just drifting like entering turns or to park.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
I realize that, I am not doubting drifting as a sport, I just doubt this guy is seriously drifting at a track event in the Lafayette area.
Dude chill

I only drift in parking lots when no car is there or when it's raining and there's no car.. I do that in Lafayette but The drift events that I attend are in new Orleans. There will be one on jan 28.. It's a huge parking with cones ..
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:06 AM
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Can anybody please help??? Just read what I wrote..the explanation is all there!
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:09 AM
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Answer the questions I posted earlier in the thread....... Are you sure its the car and not your technique?
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