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rockerfella174 03-18-2010 07:57 AM

DTC P0076 : Intake Valve Control Solenoid Circuit Low Bank 1
 
hi guys ,

I have diagnostic and come out with this code : DTC P0076 : Intake Valve Control Solenoid Circuit Low Bank 1


Im actually lost, :dunno:Can some one explain to me where is this item on the RX8 ?
:dunno:


any advices or pics so i can troubleshoot this problem?


rockerfella174

xsnipersgox 03-18-2010 09:31 AM

hmmm, talking out of my ass, but you may wanna take a look at the wiring diagram and check the wiring/fuse that deals with the intake control system.

go back to autozone, find out what rpm you were at when this happens, then you can figure out which valve is open/stuck/watever.

bank 1 is rotor 1... though i don't think the valves are rotor specific, might wanna take a look at intake design also. o.O

paging RotaryGod.. or someone

Brooklynite 10-24-2016 01:29 PM

Now i've looked around and have no choice but to revive, since there's no clear path to take for this particular
P0076 : Intake Valve Control Solenoid Circuit Low Bank 1
dilemma.
A little bit of an add on in my particular situation - i experience power interruptions shortly after car warms up well.

Any advice? please )

Jon316G 10-24-2016 01:50 PM

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Could be a bad electrical connection at the VDI solenoid or the solenoid itself.
You can swap the VDI and AIR solenoids to see if that corrects your issue.
Also clean the contacts while you're in there.

Attachment 214890

Brooklynite 10-24-2016 02:58 PM

Grateful for the reply.
Question of access though:
So i lift the car on a passenger side and go under somewhere around behind the front wheel closer to the center of the car?

Jon316G 10-24-2016 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Brooklynite (Post 4787999)
So i lift the car on a passenger side and go under somewhere around behind the front wheel closer to the center of the car?

No need to lift the car.
Follow this DIY for removing the UIM and you'll see them in the back behind the oil fill neck.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-...titled-196310/

Brooklynite 10-24-2016 03:04 PM

Quick note
I do have AEM cold air induction installed by previous owner, and there might be slight modifications. is there anything should i look for or take note of?

Jon316G 10-24-2016 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Brooklynite (Post 4788002)
I do have AEM cold air induction installed by previous owner, and there might be slight modifications. is there anything should i look for or take note of?

Not really.... just loosen the couplers so the pipes can slide in/out.
Just be careful of the screened couplers (you'll see a screen mesh inside). Don't want to damage those screens.
Might want to take a picture of the AEM intake layout so you know which pipe sections go where (even better, label them as you take them out).

Also in that link I sent you above, I instruct how to remove the UIM, but a little further down in post #5 wcs added to my instructions with pictures.

Brooklynite 10-24-2016 05:43 PM

Tried, ran in to trouble, the diy is good either a lil omitting or confusing or i'm missing something.
I removed the bolts 3+2 on the left (facing the car), removed the blue clipped hose in the center underneath and the connector between it and oil fill cap, removed the throttle body.

Now there's something holding the UIM under the first bend (that's after the throttle body)
- my guess is 2 bolts upside down
is there a trick to this?


PS. i'm not in a garage, or even a driveway, out on the street. daylight died, and wind picked up throwing and bending the hood, so i retreated for now...

Jon316G 10-25-2016 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynite (Post 4788026)
Now there's something holding the UIM under the first bend (that's after the throttle body)
- my guess is 2 bolts upside down

Yeah... there are two hidden upside-down bolts at first bend behind this bracket:
Attachment 214891
I usually just bend that bracket up to expose the bolts and then you can get a socket or wrench on it (I like using a ratcheting wrench here).

Also take care of the vacuum line behind the UIM that runs down to the vacuum chamber for the three solenoids.
In the pic above you can see it on the right with the green & white check valve.
You usually have to rotate the line back and forth on the plastic nipple to free it.
Don't grab and pull/twist on the line or the plastic nipple could break.

Here is good pic showing the three solenoids behind the oil fill neck:
Attachment 214892
Starting at the top is the AIR, SSV, then VDI at the bottom.
Just swap the AIR and VDI solenoid and clean the electrical contacts in the wire harness and in the solenoid in case there is corrosion on them.

FYI: All three solenoids are the same along with the VFAD solenoid if you still have that (but not used with the AEM intake like you have).
I just like to avoid the SSV in swaps since that is more critical/noticeable when it fails.
The SSV opens above 3250rpm when engine load is great enough to increase the air flow amount through secondary runners.
The VDI doesn't open until above 7250rpm to shorten the effective length of the intake tubes and provide dynamic air charging effect.
The AIR is used when the engine is started to allow the air pump to introduce secondary air into the exhaust ports, which reacts with unburnt gas and thereby raising the exhaust gas temp and enhancing catalyst activation (not needed if you are running without a catalytic converter).

Now my brain hurts.... hope this helps!

mazdaverx7 10-25-2016 05:52 AM

You will probably want to meter for resistance values of the VDI solenoid and check the wiring for any cuts or breaks leading to that solenoid. To properly diagnose this you will need the FSM. There's nothing you can do without it because you need the resistance values and you need the wiring diagram to trace the circuit.

Jon316G 10-25-2016 06:45 AM

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If you want to take troubleshooting further you can follow this DIY I made awhile ago for testing solenoids:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-...lenoid-190364/
Solenoids can stick, but it can tell you if the valve never opens/switches.

And don't worry about tracing wires just yet.
From our experience either the solenoid itself fails or the electrical contacts become corroded in the harness and/or solenoid so start with the common stuff first.
If it comes to tracing wires, you can use the diagram below:
Attachment 214893 Attachment 214894

Brooklynite 10-25-2016 10:37 AM

you mean the bracket those ziptie clips are on?
so just force it 90* out (so the clips would be sticking upward)?

Jon316G 10-25-2016 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Brooklynite (Post 4788100)
you mean the bracket those ziptie clips are on?
so just force it 90* out (so the clips would be sticking upward)?

Correct. I bend that 90* bracket up to make it horizontal.
Then you should see the bolt heads... it really makes the job easier.
I've tried it without bending it and it can be a pain.

Brooklynite 10-25-2016 12:26 PM

It's proven to be a bit difficult, what would you recommend to use to bend it?

Jon316G 10-25-2016 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Brooklynite (Post 4788142)
It's proven to be a bit difficult, what would you recommend to use to bend it?

Your hand ;)
But you can use pliers or a channellock too.
Doesn't take that much to bend the bracket up.

Brooklynite 10-25-2016 01:12 PM

Yeah, I got it, I was just scared of breaking stuff, as usual.
Now I'm scared of breaking stuff while trying to remove the solenoids.

Jon316G 10-25-2016 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Brooklynite (Post 4788156)
Now I'm scared of breaking stuff while trying to remove the solenoids.

You should take caution with that too.
Like with the other plastic nipple/fitting, it too has been known to break off if you're not careful.
Just lightly grab the hose at the nipple with pliers (I like wide nose pliers) and twist until the hose rotates.
Don't grab too hard or you'll twist and break the nipple.
Just don't rush, take your time, and all will (hopefully) go well.

Brooklynite 10-25-2016 01:19 PM

Yeah, I unplugged 1, but how to take it out?

Jon316G 10-25-2016 01:29 PM

Once the electrical harness is unplugged and the small vacuum line is off (caution with the plastic nipple), the solenoid will pull straight out of the manifold.
Rotate the solenoid back and forth while pulling away from the manifold.
It will be a little tough to pop out but it will.

Brooklynite 10-25-2016 01:43 PM

Got them all.
There was a locking clip that I missed :rolleyes:

Now
Will this be OK to test the solenoids?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...bb740ba178.jpg

Jon316G 10-25-2016 01:57 PM

While I can't say for sure that the solenoids won't get damaged, I myself wouldn't because battery chargers usually start with high amps and ~14V+.
You can use your car battery or a 12V transformer brick from an old device you no longer use.

Jon316G 10-25-2016 02:00 PM

You can also check continuity between the two terminal on the solenoid, but that will only test the valve in one position

Brooklynite 10-25-2016 02:00 PM

there are 3 settings on this thing
6v 6a
12v 2a
12v 6a

and i don't have anything else

+ i can bring a tester i left in the car

Jon316G 10-25-2016 02:05 PM

You can try the 12v 2a setting if you want... I wouldn't keep it energized for too long though.
And use the solenoid that was in the VDI position in case something does go wrong, that way you aren't damaging a solenoid that was likely good.
If a solenoid does get ruined, you can just install that in the AIR position and keep the good ones for the SSV and VDI.


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