markpmm

Whoops..sorry

FYI

2004 MPV & 2004 RX-8 Front Passenger-Side Airbag Recalls 1604B-a and 1604B-b STOP DELIVERY



This is to notify you of a recall and STOP DELIVERY on the 2004 MPV and 2004 RX-8. This recall and stop delivery notification is for dealer inventory vehicles. This message provides dealers with detailed parts information, warranty claim processing information, and repair procedures.



Beginning today, February 16, 2004, all 2004 MPV and 2004 RX-8 models in dealer inventory must be inspected and repaired (if necessary) prior to customer delivery.



Selling or leasing subject vehicles without performing the necessary inspection and/or repair is prohibited by law. Failure to perform applicable recalls before delivery can result in extensive dealer fines from the Federal Government. Once 2004 MPV and 2004 RX-8 models have been inspected and repaired (if necessary), customer delivery may begin.



Mazda Motor Corporation has decided that 2004 MPV vehicles produced from August 20, 2003 through February 4, 2004 fail to conform to requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 208, Occupant Crash Protection. Also, Mazda Motor Corporation has decided that a defect, which relates to motor vehicle safety, exists in certain 2004 RX-8 vehicles produced from April 10, 2003 through January 28, 2004.



Certain 2004 MPV and 2004 RX-8 vehicles were produced with improperly wired front passenger-side airbags. The result of this problem is that the airbag will not provide adequate protection in the event of a crash. Mazda has decided to conduct a recall campaign to correct the wiring by installing a new wiring harness in the front passenger-side airbag system on all affected vehicles.



Owners of affected vehicles will be notified by first class mail beginning February 27, 2004.



SUBJECT VEHICLES
Model
VIN Range
Build Date Range

2004 MPV
JM3LW28**40 500013 - 519303
August 20, 2003 - February 4, 2004

2004 RX-8
JM1FE17**40 100053 - 131563
April 10, 2003 - January 28, 2004


Note: The asterisk symbol "*" can be any letter or number.



OWNER NOTIFICATION
Mazda will notify U.S. owners by first class mail beginning February 27, 2004.

red_rx8_red_int

Absolutly right!! But I needed a new car and NOTHING else excited me in the least. So I'm more than willing to put up with the problems all first model year owners experience. Plus there's other factors to consider. One, a first year model is typically more valuable to collectors. Two, assuming all the bugs are worked out and the 05 -09 models are great cars, the RX-8 brand will gain great name recognition, and when I go to sell my 04 8 with 200k miles, I will fetch more than it's actually worth to an unsophisticated teenager.

JeRKy 8 Owner

Very disappointing

RosenthalMazda

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...er_recall.html

I'm not sure if that's a vote of confidence or whathaveyee...maybe the alcohol's clouding my judgement?

(Thank god for a spellchecker...regardless)

Gyro

hehe . No Tommy, I was referring to my interpretation of what the 2nd rcall was going to be. Not if you were going to post it. You always pull through with the TSB's. Its the first place I look.

I was suggesting that the recall was going to be for something good like a magical 20 HP PCM reflash or something that that.....just horsing around

RosenthalMazda

It's just the Vodka talking on my end! Just having a little fun with it. BTW...How funny for me to post that and realize that I only posted 1/2 the bulletin!

Have one one me 'eh? I'm fixing it. Graphix intensive for dialup users, if there are any left... but worth the download.

Gyro

We all appreciate how open and quick with the information you guys at Rosenthal are...thanks Tommy...

RosenthalMazda

There is one for the airbag - haven't read it yet but so far it looks like only repair precedures. No official document is posted.

That's what through me off on the other recall...two listings - one was the letter and the other listed separate was the procedure.

Once I get both I'll combine them and post together. Probably in the morning.

RosenthalMazda

Ahh, that's cool. Actually they could give a rats.....

I just take pleasure in beating the other guy to the punch.

Competitive like that, ya know?

G8rboy

That's a pretty weak argument... if there weren't enthusiasts like us that would wait on a list to buy exciting new sports cars like the '8, then they simply wouldn't get built. I guess I should bought a Ford Taurus instead. Thanks for the tip!

markpmm

Now thats what I call an information highway..

Two guys trying to post the latest.

doccable

I called my dealer that services my 8, and they said they didn't know anything about it yet. They were quite surprised to hear that I knew about a recall before they did. I went ahead and scheduled myself for mid-March, with the understanding that if the parts aren't in yet that we'll reschedule as needed. Since the letter to owners is supposedly going out to us on the 27th of February, I figure mid-month should be safe. This way, I'm not stuck waiting in line.

Chrisbert

I think this explains the sound I have been tracking down without any luck. https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=18683

I theorized a heat-shield was loose; maybe I was dead on.

RosenthalMazda

I'm afraid I have been lacking in posting due to a previous commitment in putting together our sister store's Honda web site but we're all caught up to date.

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ocs/index.html

Cerestes

My dealership is currently clueless to any recalls on RX-8s ...

very sad to me ... but not surprising they really haven't been the best group to work with so far.

Cerestes

My dealership is currently clueless to any recalls on RX-8s ...

very sad to me ... but not surprising they really haven't been the best group to work with so far.

rotary_it_up

I called my dealership on Thursday 2/19 about a CEL light. I mentioned at that time about the recalls and they had the parts in stock.

Took it in this morning and had both recall issues fixed. The CEL was for a cat problem. They are waiting for an email from Mazda to see what to do. Probably a new cat according to the dealer service dept.

markpmm

FYI

Suspension

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02-002/04 RX-8 - SNAPPING NOISE WHEN TURNING AT LOW SPEED - 18" WHEELS
APPLICABLE MODEL(S) / VINS
VIN Range - JM1FE17**40100000 - 40128212

DESCRIPTION
A snapping noise may be heard from the front suspension when the vehicle is turning at low speeds, such as in a parking lot or into a driveway. The noise is more likely to occur when the desired turning circle of the vehicle is larger (wider turn).

The number of times this noise may occur is in direct proportion to the revolution of tires. If the vehicle is turning quickly, the snapping noise may be heard constantly. When the vehicle is making a right turn, the noise is heard from the left of vehicle, and when the vehicle is making a left turn, the noise is heard from the right of vehicle.

When the vehicle is making a turn with the front tires receiving side force, the joint surface of the aluminum wheel slightly deforms, allowing the wheel and brake disc to slip against each other. This slippage causes the anti-corrosion treatment to peel off the brake disc. The frictional co-efficient between the wheel and brake disc joint surface changes. As a result, a stick-slip noise occurs.

REPAIR PROCEDURE
Verify customer concern.

Remove the front tire / wheel assemblies.

Remove anti-corrosion treatment (black coating) from mounting surface of brake disc and wheel with #)100 sand paper, and clean mounting surface of brake disc and wheel with brake cleaner.

Re-tighten lug nuts to 147 N.m (108 ft-lb).
NOTE: The Workshop Manual specifies a lug nut torque of 88-118 N.m (65-87 ft-lb), but for a field countermeasure against this noise, be sure to torque the lug nuts to 147 N.m (108 ft-lb). Revised wheel torque specs should be used anytime wheels are removed from the vehicle (wheel rotations etc..).


Verify repair.



WARRANTY INFORMATION
NOTE: This information applies to verified customer complaints on vehicles covered under normal warranty. Refer to the SRT microfiche for warranty term information.


Warranty Type

A


Symptom Code

82


Damage Code

9B


Part Number Main Cause

9965 05 8080


Quantity

0


Operation Number / Labor Hours

XX639XRX / 0.7 (Both Sides)




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success07

What should we do for the dealers that are clueless about all this stuff?

I called my dealer today about the reflash stating CEL and poor gas mileage and they had nothing to say about it. Their lead technician hadn't heard of any issues and he said that he had just came back from some RX8 training class. Guess he didn't learn crap.

All in all the car is running just fine. Though if I can get it to idle smoother and get better gas mileage than I want it done. Yes?

mdw33333

Yeah, I'm up here in Akron, and my dealer (Park Mazda) didn't know about it either. Their service tech and I discussed other issues with the 8, but he had no knowledge of the ECU reflash.

I'm sure it'll just take a little more time for all dealers to become aware of it.

BTW, I'm coming down to Columbus this weekend for the "Arnold Classic and Fitness Expo." I go down there every year for it. We usually go down on Sunday and spend a little time afterwords at the Polaris Mall.

RosenthalMazda

A lot of dealers don't know about service bulletins unless they consistantly look or someone comes in with it in hand. That's why we post them.

Most dealers won't know about the recalls until late this month (but it IS late this month)!!

What can I say...If your recall notice doesn't come quick enough, print it and take it in.

BTW...I posted 2 new ones today. Not recalls but stuff you should know.

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ocs/index.html

Tommy


Was a bad link but I fixed it.

RosenthalMazda

I gotta bad link...stand by...


Fixed it.

markpmm

Switch you dealer e-mail to your mailbox and you can get them whenever you want..Like 10pm on any Tuesday night..

Btw the bulletins are not held until the end of the month

RosenthalMazda

Ummm, I'm not sure I understand what you mean...

markpmm

Use the "preferred e-mail" option and send the bulletins directly to your personal e-mail address.

Just see the WSL admin at the dealer and switch it over.

If you go to the Mx connect site you can download the info when you choose "dealer e-mail"