Clutch Pedal SNAP OFF 8 Year Warranty-Recall ~~~
07-25-2008, 12:53 PM
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Wait so I'm confused, I have to take my bracket off the car and send it to BHR, they weld it, and then they send it back to me? Isn't that a little inconvenient?
07-25-2008, 02:14 PM
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Or... you can have a local shop weld your old one up for $30-$50 (in my case free) and order the bracket from Mazsport for $130 +/-.
... just offering an alternative guys! Don't want it to be one sided here.
... just offering an alternative guys! Don't want it to be one sided here.
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07-25-2008, 02:38 PM
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My clutch started squeakin too maybe 2 months ago or more. I guess im the next one buyin the mazsport bracket. Quick question though, would it be better if I were to get a new oem clutch bracket and then install the mazsport bracket? Or would it have no difference puttin the bracket onto my current squeaking one? Thanx in advance
07-25-2008, 03:23 PM
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07-25-2008, 03:24 PM
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Actually we have been welding the bracket in stock cars for a couple of years as part of a normal clutch job. We felt eliminating the flexing by reinforcing the assembly was a much better solution than adding additional welding to the weak factory metal. Customers have been calling the shop with broken brackets and we respond by saying send it in and for $175 we will repair your pedal assembly and install our reinforcement kit. If the pedal is not broken simply installing our kit will eliminate the problem.
07-25-2008, 03:25 PM
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ITs just sad that most poor rx-8 owners who never use the internet or found this forum will end up being tricked by Mazda and its dealership into thinking that "Oh, the Bracket must be a wear item .... dealership said so, and it cost 500 bux including parts & labor to replace !"
07-25-2008, 08:52 PM
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My symptoms before I knew what was going on:
1. Was hard to get into 3 gear without a little grind (not sure why just 3rd)
2. Clutch seemed to not be as responsive when pushing in
3. Foot almost to the floor before fully engaging
4. SNAP! (your toast)
I was lucky enough to be less than 1/2 mile to my house so I had to start the car in 1st gear and drive home without shifting.
OUR OEM CLUTCH IS A PIECE OF S#1T!
Both Charles and Scott have good remedies but the real issue is that MAZDA needs to do something about it and the only way Mazda will do anything is if we get off of our asses and do what nycgps is telling us to do. Tell us again nycgps!
1. Was hard to get into 3 gear without a little grind (not sure why just 3rd)
2. Clutch seemed to not be as responsive when pushing in
3. Foot almost to the floor before fully engaging
4. SNAP! (your toast)
I was lucky enough to be less than 1/2 mile to my house so I had to start the car in 1st gear and drive home without shifting.
OUR OEM CLUTCH IS A PIECE OF S#1T!
Both Charles and Scott have good remedies but the real issue is that MAZDA needs to do something about it and the only way Mazda will do anything is if we get off of our asses and do what nycgps is telling us to do. Tell us again nycgps!
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07-25-2008, 10:51 PM
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How funny that Mazda and/or the dealer network is telling people the broken pedal assemblies are "normal" as I don't see in the owner's manual at what mileage we should be changing these things out. I see filters, fluids, tire rotation, but no clutch pedal assembly replacement.
Cuz the Clutch pedal on my Honda FIT has Much better construction than the PoS Mazda ... at least I cant move it left & right, no squeaking, etc. *sigh* and it cost nearly 1/2 the price of the rx-8. what the hell ...
maybe I should take a picture of it. shame on Mazda on this one.
07-26-2008, 01:04 AM
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This should be repeated on every page of this thread:
Im telling you guys who had a problem(or having a problem) with this clutch thing to REPORT this to NHTSA.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
07-26-2008, 02:05 AM
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NHTSA form
OK, I filed my complaint with NHTSA. Go to this link as it is a little more direct to the form: File a complaint/Defects & Recalls
I hope I did it right!
This was the report I submitted. It's only the description field and not the whole report. The field converts everything to one long paragraph:
Clutch assembly faulty design. While driving and shifting gears (manual transmission) the clutch pedal assembly snaps, resulting in the loss of ability to shift gears. After pulling over to the side of the road, the car had to be started in 1st gear to drive to safety. The thin metal tears away from around one of the bolts that holds the assembly to the firewall. This is happening on other RX-8's of people I associate with to the point that welding up the old bracket is becoming common. Mazda has not come up with a stronger assembly since they introduced the RX-8 in 2004. The alternatives to correct the issue (out of warranty) is to: (A) Purchase a new one from Mazda. (B) Have your old assembly welded or purchase a remanufactured welded one. (C) Purchase a bracket that adds support to the assembly I did both B & C, Welded and added support.
To search their database: Search for Complaints
Choose "Vehicle" then click "Search Selected Type"
I hope I did it right!
This was the report I submitted. It's only the description field and not the whole report. The field converts everything to one long paragraph:
Clutch assembly faulty design. While driving and shifting gears (manual transmission) the clutch pedal assembly snaps, resulting in the loss of ability to shift gears. After pulling over to the side of the road, the car had to be started in 1st gear to drive to safety. The thin metal tears away from around one of the bolts that holds the assembly to the firewall. This is happening on other RX-8's of people I associate with to the point that welding up the old bracket is becoming common. Mazda has not come up with a stronger assembly since they introduced the RX-8 in 2004. The alternatives to correct the issue (out of warranty) is to: (A) Purchase a new one from Mazda. (B) Have your old assembly welded or purchase a remanufactured welded one. (C) Purchase a bracket that adds support to the assembly I did both B & C, Welded and added support.
To search their database: Search for Complaints
Choose "Vehicle" then click "Search Selected Type"
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07-26-2008, 02:19 AM
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How about use Sevenstock to bring more awareness?
Don't mean it as shout it out while the guests are on stage and try to corner Mazda type of deal, that would be rude. But... since fellow owners have some chance to walk around and talk to other owners, may be it should be brought to their attention and ask see if they have the same issue and let them know that we are trying to get more people who do have the same issue to report this to NHTSA.
Don't mean it as shout it out while the guests are on stage and try to corner Mazda type of deal, that would be rude. But... since fellow owners have some chance to walk around and talk to other owners, may be it should be brought to their attention and ask see if they have the same issue and let them know that we are trying to get more people who do have the same issue to report this to NHTSA.
07-26-2008, 10:04 AM
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It's hard to understand why Mazda is not recalling cars immediately to fix this problem before there is a serious accident as a result of this clutch failure. The prior knowledge provided via this thread and the official complaints would make their case almost indefensible and could result in huge payouts in damage claims.
07-26-2008, 09:27 PM
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A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
07-26-2008, 09:47 PM
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It's hard to understand why Mazda is not recalling cars immediately to fix this problem before there is a serious accident as a result of this clutch failure. The prior knowledge provided via this thread and the official complaints would make their case almost indefensible and could result in huge payouts in damage claims.
07-27-2008, 12:29 AM
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Yeah, it sucks giant monkey ballz believe me. I wasn't happy about choking up the cash for the new brakcet but it made enough difference in my pedal feel it was worth the cash. Not to mention if I snapped my pedal I'd be wishing I had taken care of it before hand.
07-27-2008, 07:23 AM
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*sigh*
even stock car breaks ... they still gonna claim its customer abuse ...
Mazda ... what the HELL !!! SERIOUSLY !!!!!!!!!!!! Do you want someone to die before you do anything about it ? If thats your company's policy, I really really REALLY have to re-consider b4 I buy another Mazda Vehicle.
even stock car breaks ... they still gonna claim its customer abuse ...
Mazda ... what the HELL !!! SERIOUSLY !!!!!!!!!!!! Do you want someone to die before you do anything about it ? If thats your company's policy, I really really REALLY have to re-consider b4 I buy another Mazda Vehicle.
07-28-2008, 09:47 AM
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There is a Mazda TSB offering one explaination.
MT - UNUSUAL NOISE WHEN CLUTCH PEDAL IS DEPRESSED
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...11-06-1724.pdf
07-28-2008, 10:00 AM
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That can be explained by other things.
There is a Mazda TSB offering one explaination.
MT - UNUSUAL NOISE WHEN CLUTCH PEDAL IS DEPRESSED
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...11-06-1724.pdf
There is a Mazda TSB offering one explaination.
MT - UNUSUAL NOISE WHEN CLUTCH PEDAL IS DEPRESSED
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...11-06-1724.pdf
But, when I asked them to have a look into it, they were like, "clutch braket"?? Specifically, what r you concerned, sir? I'm guessing I was too specific, so I told them the clutch gave me a squeking sound this morning when I press on the clutch pedal. The service advisor said, 'ok, will do'
