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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Wait so I'm confused, I have to take my bracket off the car and send it to BHR, they weld it, and then they send it back to me? Isn't that a little inconvenient?
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
Wait so I'm confused, I have to take my bracket off the car and send it to BHR, they weld it, and then they send it back to me? Isn't that a little inconvenient?
No.
A new one comes to you first and then you return your old one to BHR.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
No.
A new one comes to you first and then you return your old one to BHR.
Oh, much better. Where do I sign up CRH? ^_^
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Or... you can have a local shop weld your old one up for $30-$50 (in my case free) and order the bracket from Mazsport for $130 +/-.

... just offering an alternative guys! Don't want it to be one sided here.

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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NoOdLe BoY
My clutch started squeakin too maybe 2 months ago or more. I guess im the next one buyin the mazsport bracket. Quick question though, would it be better if I were to get a new oem clutch bracket and then install the mazsport bracket? Or would it have no difference puttin the bracket onto my current squeaking one? Thanx in advance
I wouldn't spend the money on a new pedal, just install the Mazsport pedal reinforcement kit, problem solved. Remove the flex, remove the problem.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Ray, when i go home from Hondo for all the work.... i'm gonna send you my clutch bracket... assuming it hasnt broken on my mother already at that point...
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Then why do you suppose that Mazsport now offers a welding service whereas BHR has always welded ours?
Actually we have been welding the bracket in stock cars for a couple of years as part of a normal clutch job. We felt eliminating the flexing by reinforcing the assembly was a much better solution than adding additional welding to the weak factory metal. Customers have been calling the shop with broken brackets and we respond by saying send it in and for $175 we will repair your pedal assembly and install our reinforcement kit. If the pedal is not broken simply installing our kit will eliminate the problem.
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
I feel the same way, Don, as there are thousands of brackets that will need fixing so there is plenty of work to go around. Ain't the free-market a wonderful concept?
ITs just sad that most poor rx-8 owners who never use the internet or found this forum will end up being tricked by Mazda and its dealership into thinking that "Oh, the Bracket must be a wear item .... dealership said so, and it cost 500 bux including parts & labor to replace !"
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Yep, very true. I wonder if someone, somewhere, will start selling it as part of the clutch job?
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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I dont know if my clutch assembly has issues, is there an easy way for a newb like me to do a visual? How much is the BHR solution as well?
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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My symptoms before I knew what was going on:

1. Was hard to get into 3 gear without a little grind (not sure why just 3rd)
2. Clutch seemed to not be as responsive when pushing in
3. Foot almost to the floor before fully engaging
4. SNAP! (your toast)

I was lucky enough to be less than 1/2 mile to my house so I had to start the car in 1st gear and drive home without shifting.

OUR OEM CLUTCH IS A PIECE OF S#1T!

Both Charles and Scott have good remedies but the real issue is that MAZDA needs to do something about it and the only way Mazda will do anything is if we get off of our asses and do what nycgps is telling us to do. Tell us again nycgps!

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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
How funny that Mazda and/or the dealer network is telling people the broken pedal assemblies are "normal" as I don't see in the owner's manual at what mileage we should be changing these things out. I see filters, fluids, tire rotation, but no clutch pedal assembly replacement.
Sometimes I feel very sad.

Cuz the Clutch pedal on my Honda FIT has Much better construction than the PoS Mazda ... at least I cant move it left & right, no squeaking, etc. *sigh* and it cost nearly 1/2 the price of the rx-8. what the hell ...

maybe I should take a picture of it. shame on Mazda on this one.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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This should be repeated on every page of this thread:

Originally Posted by nycgps
Im telling you guys who had a problem(or having a problem) with this clutch thing to REPORT this to NHTSA.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 02:05 AM
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NHTSA form

OK, I filed my complaint with NHTSA. Go to this link as it is a little more direct to the form: File a complaint/Defects & Recalls

I hope I did it right!

This was the report I submitted. It's only the description field and not the whole report. The field converts everything to one long paragraph:

Clutch assembly faulty design. While driving and shifting gears (manual transmission) the clutch pedal assembly snaps, resulting in the loss of ability to shift gears. After pulling over to the side of the road, the car had to be started in 1st gear to drive to safety. The thin metal tears away from around one of the bolts that holds the assembly to the firewall. This is happening on other RX-8's of people I associate with to the point that welding up the old bracket is becoming common. Mazda has not come up with a stronger assembly since they introduced the RX-8 in 2004. The alternatives to correct the issue (out of warranty) is to: (A) Purchase a new one from Mazda. (B) Have your old assembly welded or purchase a remanufactured welded one. (C) Purchase a bracket that adds support to the assembly I did both B & C, Welded and added support.

To search their database: Search for Complaints
Choose "Vehicle" then click "Search Selected Type"

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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 02:19 AM
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How about use Sevenstock to bring more awareness?

Don't mean it as shout it out while the guests are on stage and try to corner Mazda type of deal, that would be rude. But... since fellow owners have some chance to walk around and talk to other owners, may be it should be brought to their attention and ask see if they have the same issue and let them know that we are trying to get more people who do have the same issue to report this to NHTSA.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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It's hard to understand why Mazda is not recalling cars immediately to fix this problem before there is a serious accident as a result of this clutch failure. The prior knowledge provided via this thread and the official complaints would make their case almost indefensible and could result in huge payouts in damage claims.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Delmeister
It's hard to understand why Mazda is not recalling cars immediately to fix this problem before there is a serious accident as a result of this clutch failure. The prior knowledge provided via this thread and the official complaints would make their case almost indefensible and could result in huge payouts in damage claims.
why? because if they do this is going to be a massive recall, cuz it means that they have to recall every single Manual transmission Rx-8 back, replace the faulty part + labor. thats massive amount of money.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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anyone know how many MT rx8s have been sold so far?
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
why? because if they do this is going to be a massive recall, cuz it means that they have to recall every single Manual transmission Rx-8 back, replace the faulty part + labor. thats massive amount of money.
Until this issue actually resultes in an accident, Mazda isn't going to do much about it. No doubt they will push it off as "customer abuse" because it's not happening with enough of a percentage of RX8's. Plus, it seems some of those effected have installed heavier clutches, which as we know, voids your warranty for pretty much anything drivetrain related (barring any Mazdaspeed parts).

Yeah, it sucks giant monkey ballz believe me. I wasn't happy about choking up the cash for the new brakcet but it made enough difference in my pedal feel it was worth the cash. Not to mention if I snapped my pedal I'd be wishing I had taken care of it before hand.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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thats what they said to me

"customer abuse" wtf....
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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*sigh*

even stock car breaks ... they still gonna claim its customer abuse ...

Mazda ... what the HELL !!! SERIOUSLY !!!!!!!!!!!! Do you want someone to die before you do anything about it ? If thats your company's policy, I really really REALLY have to re-consider b4 I buy another Mazda Vehicle.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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f*k it!!!... my RX-8's (which I bought used 2 weeks ago) clutch pedal started to squek at me this morning !!!... after reading this thread... omg!!!
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by vX-2
f*k it!!!... my RX-8's (which I bought used 2 weeks ago) clutch pedal started to squek at me this morning !!!... after reading this thread... omg!!!
That can be explained by other things.
There is a Mazda TSB offering one explaination.
MT - UNUSUAL NOISE WHEN CLUTCH PEDAL IS DEPRESSED
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...11-06-1724.pdf
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
That can be explained by other things.
There is a Mazda TSB offering one explaination.
MT - UNUSUAL NOISE WHEN CLUTCH PEDAL IS DEPRESSED
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...11-06-1724.pdf
Well, since I've already sent my car to them to have a look at the CEL, I've just called them to have a look at the famous "clutch braket" because it started squeking at me this morning (like yelping for attention).

But, when I asked them to have a look into it, they were like, "clutch braket"?? Specifically, what r you concerned, sir? I'm guessing I was too specific, so I told them the clutch gave me a squeking sound this morning when I press on the clutch pedal. The service advisor said, 'ok, will do'
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