Originally Posted by AirlockRX
(Post 4558547)
Wish I woulda known that sooner, I paid $82 at Rosenthal for OE...:banghead:
Thanks for that info though, great advice. Do you have the part # ?? Part number is K5T44091 I believe. |
Thanks guys!
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i've seen it on numerous cars, initially i tried cleaning the connections but that never worked long term for more than a day or 2(until the engine warmed up enough for the solenoid to drop in resistance enough to throw the code). now i just replace the solenoids whenever the code pops up and the problem goes away.
swapping the solenoids was futile but it did verify that the solenoid was at fault. the code just moves to the air pump but the cars still would fail smog due to the CEL still being on. |
Originally Posted by DMaverickRX8
(Post 4558549)
Ouch. Eh we live and learn right. :doh:
Part number is K5T44091 I believe.
Originally Posted by BlackRX8_04
(Post 4558577)
Thanks guys!
Originally Posted by Karack
(Post 4558616)
i've seen it on numerous cars, initially i tried cleaning the connections but that never worked long term for more than a day or 2(until the engine warmed up enough for the solenoid to drop in resistance enough to throw the code). now i just replace the solenoids whenever the code pops up and the problem goes away.
swapping the solenoids was futile but it did verify that the solenoid was at fault. the code just moves to the air pump but the cars still would fail smog due to the CEL still being on. First vehicle I had this issue with... |
Originally Posted by DMaverickRX8
(Post 4558543)
I had p0661 a while back. I didnt waste my time cleaning it. A new $20 solenoid later and she was good to go. The solenoid is a common vacuum solenoid made by Mitsubishi and can be bought cheap. Dont fall for Mazda's solenoid which costs $99.
What site did you get the part from? I googled the part number you gave and only got ebay. Not sure if the part I'm looking at is what I need to replace but i do have that p0661 CEL on so its worth a shot. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-Mazd...a797c0&vxp=mtr |
Yeah eBay will work fine. I think I paid $10 for a used sensor cleaned w warranty from there iirc. I see them new on eBay for $20-$30
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the same solenoid was used on numerous other mazda and ford cars/trucks/vans. as long as the part # matches you should be fine, as it was also used to control various other components as well.
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Originally Posted by DMaverickRX8
(Post 4563670)
Yeah eBay will work fine. I think I paid $10 for a used sensor cleaned w warranty from there iirc. I see them new on eBay for $20-$30
Originally Posted by Karack
(Post 4563721)
the same solenoid was used on numerous other mazda and ford cars/trucks/vans. as long as the part # matches you should be fine, as it was also used to control various other components as well.
Thank you both. Hopefully it's just that piece throwing the CEL. |
From all I read p0661 is 9x out of 10 the solenoid.
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unfortunately i found out about the alternate solenoids after wasting a few hundred $ at the dealer on them. $78 a pop.. at $30 i'm sure i can find space for them on the shelf.
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:) eBay sometimes is pretty kewl
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Originally Posted by DMaverickRX8
(Post 4563806)
:) eBay sometimes is pretty kewl
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I hate selling on eBay. Its worse than buying from there
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Does anyone have the "blue, white, and black" clip order for the vacuum pod?
IE, white equals SSV / black equals VDI / blue equals Air Injection? I think the white clip on the vacuum chamber controls the SSV.... |
Originally Posted by Rote8
(Post 4633335)
Does anyone have the "blue, white, and black" clip order for the vacuum pod?
IE, white equals SSV / black equals VDI / blue equals Air Injection? I think the white clip on the vacuum chamber controls the SSV.... I'll have to look it up in my shop manual, can't remember. Might take a minute. Maybe one of the Mods can interject... :eyetwitch |
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Originally Posted by Rote8
(Post 4633335)
Does anyone have the "blue, white, and black" clip order for the vacuum pod?
IE, white equals SSV / black equals VDI / blue equals Air Injection? I think the white clip on the vacuum chamber controls the SSV.... |
Is it necessary to replace all 3 solenoid valves together or would replacing just the SSV solenoid valve be sufficient?
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Originally Posted by rotaryrocket11
(Post 4637703)
Is it necessary to replace all 3 solenoid valves together or would replacing just the SSV solenoid valve be sufficient?
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Originally Posted by AirlockRX
(Post 4637744)
Just replacing the SSV took care of the p0661 circuit code. It never came back up and no 5k RPM triggering. Power restored.
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Originally Posted by rotaryrocket11
(Post 4637950)
I realised that it's really hard to remove the solenoid without removing the UIM. I tired it, it's near impossible. I'm not sure if I'll have the time to take a part. What could have caused the SSV solenoid to fail? Will constant hard driving clear the code eventually?
I agree, it's hard to reach. With my big hands, it drove me nuts because I could see it. There was no way to contort my arm to reach it well enough to work it loose. I wound up taking the intake runner assembly apart. It took about 20 minutes. I was tempted to change the other 2 out while I had it down, but I didn't have the replacements for them on hand. The really funny thing was that before I replaced the bad solenoid, the code cleared when the ambient temps were below 50 degrees. At around 90 degrees in the spring, it was really bad. Once I changed it out, the code cleared itself after 2 starts. I re-read the OBDII later and it also cleared. |
Originally Posted by AirlockRX
(Post 4638348)
SSV Failures are pretty typical with the 6 port Renesis engine after 30k miles.
I agree, it's hard to reach. With my big hands, it drove me nuts because I could see it. There was no way to contort my arm to reach it well enough to work it loose. I wound up taking the intake runner assembly apart. It took about 20 minutes. I was tempted to change the other 2 out while I had it down, but I didn't have the replacements for them on hand. The really funny thing was that before I replaced the bad solenoid, the code cleared when the ambient temps were below 50 degrees. At around 90 degrees in the spring, it was really bad. Once I changed it out, the code cleared itself after 2 starts. I re-read the OBDII later and it also cleared. Were there any after effects of not changing the SSV solenoid? |
Originally Posted by rotaryrocket11
(Post 4638363)
You took 20 minutes to remove the UIM? It does seem a lil complicated to remove within 20 minutes.
Were there any after effects of not changing the SSV solenoid? |
Originally Posted by AirlockRX
(Post 4638368)
For me, yes. It made mountain driving quite frustrating, almost stalling.
So far the car still runs fine but I need to set aside time to get it done. I've got my finals coming up. |
Good thread just got this code myself right as I am trying to sell the car.... have to see if I can get it out without removing that UIM which is pain
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Originally Posted by ftf1337
(Post 4642249)
Good thread just got this code myself right as I am trying to sell the car.... have to see if I can get it out without removing that UIM which is pain
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