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jrok1313 09-09-2009 09:57 AM

CEL p0661 SSV circuit low on 2
 
Hello everyone I am having a CEL caused by the ssv. it says low citrcuit but does that mean its the solenoid or the actual ssv? I heard on another thread that you can clean the ssv actuator and solenoid. is there some type of DIY on how to clean or replace the solenoid. any help would be greatly appreciated

nycgps 09-09-2009 10:53 AM

remove the alternator, air pump, and bunch of wires between and you can have access to the SSV.

its going to take a couple of hours. but its worth the try :)

RenKat 09-09-2009 11:46 AM

It's the connector
 
Clean the connectors on the back side of the upper intake manafold.

Jon316G 09-09-2009 01:49 PM

The code is for the SSV solenoid.
Check the connection at the solenoid and also clean it as RenKat mentioned above.
If that doesn't work, swap the connector and vacuum hose with the AIR solenoid above it so the SSV is using a different solenoid.
The AIR solenoid can be sacrificed for troubleshooting purposes.
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...3&d=1246565436

RenKat 09-09-2009 07:15 PM

Great Idea
 
^

Good one Jon316G on the swap idea.

RenKat 09-09-2009 08:15 PM

More
 
A little more info on the connectors.

Depending on how much grit has wedged between the plastic shells, it can be hard to get them off (it can lock them solid). You need to wiggle the shell in a circle while moving it in and out until it starts to release, all the time keeping the lock tab pressed.

This can be done without removing the upper intake manifold if You have strong small hands. To clean the pins best remove the UIM.

Reseat all three connectors one at a time (unplug replug twice) This is the first thing to do if you get any of the codes for these three solenoid valves. After you do this and two driving cycles the CEL will go out if it was a bad connection on any of the 6 pins.
Reseating will be a temporary fix you will need to clean them eventually.

jrok1313 09-10-2009 07:14 AM

Thank you all so much for great input. I will get to work on cleaning the connections first and then swap the solenoid above it to troubleshoot in case the cleaning doesnt work. Thanks everyone:ylsuper:

@!!narotordo 09-10-2009 07:15 AM

Good read. I'm going to try and clean them today.

MrBuddhalicious 10-23-2009 08:49 AM

so did this help with the CEL?? and the problem??

Jenn Jenn's RX8 04-03-2010 06:55 PM

Code p0661
 
I would actually be very interested to know if it worked and what the symptoms while driving were because my 04 6speed is also reading the same and as much as i would love to try all this I'm 8 months pregnant and cannot work on my car myself, so I'm just taking it up to the rotary doctor but it is driving me nuts not being able to do it myself! I would like to know the outcome!:sadwavey:

sroka88 11-17-2010 05:48 PM

P0661
 

Originally Posted by Jon316G (Post 3215170)
The code is for the SSV solenoid.
Check the connection at the solenoid and also clean it as RenKat mentioned above.
If that doesn't work, swap the connector and vacuum hose with the AIR solenoid above it so the SSV is using a different solenoid.
The AIR solenoid can be sacrificed for troubleshooting purposes.
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...3&d=1246565436


Yeah my rx8 is throwing this code and i took all 3 of the connectors off and cleaned them and inside the selonoid and its still throwing the code. my friends a mechanic but he doesnt really know anything on rotary but he tried that also and cleaned them and i had 4 lights on when he ran the emissions but then 2 lights went off and the 2 that staid on were EVAP and Secondary Air. What would you suggest for me to do to fix this problem?

RX8 Newby 04-08-2011 03:33 PM

I have totally taken apart everything down to the SSV. Cleaned all parts and connectors, CEL went off for a short time after, then came back on with the p0661 code again and a P0410 code. Any suggestions is most appreciated. It's time for emissions!

sroka88 04-12-2011 07:51 PM

yeah same here. i had my friend who is a mechanic do that and he cleaned them really good and it still came back up and i have no idea how to get it totally fixed. any other suggestions from anyone?

Jon316G 04-12-2011 09:47 PM

Did either of you actually test the solenoid or had someone test them?
Another thing you can do is swap the AIR and SSV solenoid... which I mentioned above in an earlier post, but neither of you said that you tried this.

Here is a thread for all things SSV related:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-remove-ssv-beta-teaser-video-184663/
One of the links will show you how to test the solenoid.

BReal-10EC 07-01-2011 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Jon316G (Post 3215170)
The code is for the SSV solenoid.
Check the connection at the solenoid and also clean it as RenKat mentioned above.
If that doesn't work, swap the connector and vacuum hose with the AIR solenoid above it so the SSV is using a different solenoid.
The AIR solenoid can be sacrificed for troubleshooting purposes.
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...3&d=1246565436

I just wanted to post to say thank you for that image.

I got the P0661 and P0662 errors, and have been searching for something that clearly showed where the plug is located.
That is by far the best diagram I found, and helped me locate the plug and see that the plug had literally popped back out of the connection (my 04 6sp RX8 engine was just replaced my Mazda dealer under warranty at 42k mile).

Again, thanks. :)

AirlockRX 07-23-2013 01:49 AM

Bringing this thread alive again...
How did this work out for most of you?

foxyRoXy8 07-23-2013 05:27 AM

Had exactly the same issue a while back.

Cleaned the connectors of the solenoid valves, pinched them together a bit for a tighter fit and all was back to normal!! :jump:

For good measure, I swapped the SSV solenoid valve with the air solenoid valve, figured it is less critical if it were faulty...

AirlockRX 07-23-2013 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by foxyRoXy8 (Post 4503535)
Had exactly the same issue a while back.

Cleaned the connectors of the solenoid valves, pinched them together a bit for a tighter fit and all was back to normal!! :jump:

For good measure, I swapped the SSV solenoid valve with the air solenoid valve, figured it is less critical if it were faulty...

Sounds great, thanks!
I have put it off long enough... was dreading it, actually.
I'll perform the swap as well.

BlackRX8_04 01-02-2014 10:12 PM

So what exactly does this SSV solenoid do anyway?

What long term effects can driving with a bad one have?

I have the code that keeps popping up... don't notice any difference in performance or anything. Anyone?

BlackRX8_04 01-02-2014 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by foxyRoXy8 (Post 4503535)
Had exactly the same issue a while back.

Cleaned the connectors of the solenoid valves, pinched them together a bit for a tighter fit and all was back to normal!! :jump:

For good measure, I swapped the SSV solenoid valve with the air solenoid valve, figured it is less critical if it were faulty...

Guess I'll try the same and see what happens!

AirlockRX 01-03-2014 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by BlackRX8_04 (Post 4558141)
So what exactly does this SSV solenoid do anyway?

What long term effects can driving with a bad one have?

I have the code that keeps popping up... don't notice any difference in performance or anything. Anyone?

The SSV allows the Secondary Intake tract to open in sequence at around 4-6k RPM... runs rough or sputters when the weather is hot.

Does it clear at times?
I eventually did the swap and it worked.
Cleaning the contacts didn't fix it for me.

Cold down there in OP right now, huh?

BlackRX8_04 01-04-2014 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by AirlockRX (Post 4558220)
The SSV allows the Secondary Intake tract to open in sequence at around 4-6k RPM... runs rough or sputters when the weather is hot.

Does it clear at times?
I eventually did the swap and it worked.
Cleaning the contacts didn't fix it for me.

Cold down there in OP right now, huh?

Thanks for the explanation.. so it's kinda like the MTV (manifold tuning valve) on my intrepid(?)

Yep, it clears every 3-4 driving cycles. I'll try cleaning it first.. then replace if that doesn't work.

Thanks again for the reply!

Yes, its cold down here!

AirlockRX 01-04-2014 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by BlackRX8_04 (Post 4558424)
Thanks for the explanation.. so it's kinda like the MTV (manifold tuning valve) on my intrepid(?)

Yep, it clears every 3-4 driving cycles. I'll try cleaning it first.. then replace if that doesn't work.

Thanks again for the reply!

Yes, its cold down here!

Exactly the analogy of the earlier "Tuning Valve", only more sensitive.
Glad to share....

DMaverickRX8 01-04-2014 09:51 PM

I had p0661 a while back. I didnt waste my time cleaning it. A new $20 solenoid later and she was good to go. The solenoid is a common vacuum solenoid made by Mitsubishi and can be bought cheap. Dont fall for Mazda's solenoid which costs $99.

AirlockRX 01-04-2014 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by DMaverickRX8 (Post 4558543)
I had p0661 a while back. I didnt waste my time cleaning it. A new $20 solenoid later and she was good to go. The solenoid is a common vacuum solenoid made by Mitsubishi and can be bought cheap. Dont fall for Mazda's solenoid which costs $99.

Wish I woulda known that sooner, I paid $82 at Rosenthal for OE...:banghead:
Thanks for that info though, great advice. Do you have the part # ??


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