TexasKyle

I dont see how it could be much else. I am HARD on a car and I dont think I could intentionally do this to a car. Believe me, I can be creative too! I would buy what Mazda was saying if those pics were of a two year old clutch, but not a week old one. No way, No how.

*side note - a gold star goes to anyone that can post the origins of my quote. haha*

zoom44

sherlock holmes, dudethat's an easy one

TexasKyle

You'd be surprised how many ppl DONT know it is Sherlock, or even who Sir Arthur Conan Dole is...
Back on thread.......I have talked to some of my friends and co workers(two of them are mechanics) , and No One thinks this is an abuse problem. Seems like Mazda is doing some SERIOUS track covering. I wonder how much farther they will go before admitting that this could be their fault.

Slims8

I appreciate everyone's opinion here. I am scheduled to see a lawyer on Monday, but that still doesn't fix the fact that I don't have a vehicle. I also have a good friend at classic BMW. I am going to take my clutch up there and see if I can get a written "second opinion".

Slims8

Well, just got back from getting my car... in 100 different pieces. The transmission is out, exhaust is out, center console ripped apart... I think I'm getting ROYALLY screwed here!

QuarterMile

Wow! and you had this clutch for 5 days? They returned it in pieces? hmmm, That's rediculous. I believe I'd have a lawyer.

Slims8

Yeah, things are about to that point. After re-examining the clutch I have noticed what happened. The 4 brads or rivets that hold the center piece of the disc (where the spline is) are broken. It just took the tops of the rivets out. Has anyone else seen this?

TexasKyle

Just a thought.....I assume that the car has not been run since the clutch crapped itself ( of course) Wouldnt Mazda be able to go into the ECU and tell Engine RPm etc etc the last time the car was run? I am not sure how big the memory is, or how far back it keeps track, or even what parameters it logs. Just something I thought of.....maybe this is something that can be used to your advantage????????? Y'all correct me if I am wrong.

Slims8

I'm not even sure what kind of information in keeps. I'm sure if they have the ability to read these parameters, but haven't mentioned them, there is a reason for that. The memory wouldn't have to go back very far... I only had it for 5 days. I appreciate the suggestion.

Doctor Bob

Been reading the thread-very upset by way you were treated. Also makes me worry that my car can grenade even though I drive without abusing my car. I think next year I am going to have to consider trading my car for one with a more robust clutch/transmission. I sincerely feel for you fighting Mazda Corp!

Bob

Slims8

Bob, you must have an idea of what it's like. When are they going with a more robust Clutch/transmission... and why? Apparently if they are going with more robust driveline there is a reason!

TexasKyle

Hate to say it, but if I have problems with my tranny/clutch AND there is no turbo by this time next year I am going to trade in on a '06 Cobra Mustang. I know, I know.....so PLEASE no "Mustangs Suck" crap ok. Mazda just seems to be suckin hind tit when it comes to keeping up with the 8. AND there seems to be a problem with them even wanting to try to do that. I love this car, more than any I have every had, but REAL horsepower and reliable drivetrain can make up for quite a few creature comforts lost.

Slims8

I definitely agree. I love my car, but there was a point at about the 40th day without my car since 8/9/04 that I really just wanted a Corrolla or a Cavalier if it would get me to and from work. Now it has been over 60... Maybe I'm just getting a bad experience...

QuarterMile

Well, sorry you have had such bad luck buddy. Fortunately the only problems I have had are a few rattles. So is your car just sitting at your house? What are you going to do? Don't let up until you're satisfied.

Doctor Bob

Slim-when I said that I would consider trading for more robust drivetrain I was referring to another car other than the 8 as much as that would pain me. I really do not know if Mazda is beefing up the 8's drivetrain.

Bob

Slims8

Oh... misunderstanding. I have already decided as soon as I get it fixed or whatever I am trading it in. Too bad there isn't another car that I would compare to this one... I guess I'll get a truck.

QuarterMile

Any word? Are you still without a car?

snap-on

What I don't understand is why the dealer won't cover the clutch as a parts warranty..

5 days of ANY kind of driving shouldn't result it this kind of damage..

IMHO

Slims8

QM- No, no response. Still just waiting.
Snap-On - I have no idea. According to them, they sent pictures (the same ones I have posted) to the tech line. They then told the Service Manager that it was abuse and not to cover it under warranty. I don't see why they couldn't cover it under a Parts Waranty either...

snap-on

But why did they send the Pics?

They could have done it, once they had your invoice from Arkansas..

Slims8

They were the ones that replaced the transmission and the clutch the previous time. It doesn't make any sense! The won't even talk to me. The Customer Assistance Line says "I'm sorry, we can't help you anymore" or "I'm sorry, this is over our heads" or "You will have to wait until the Rep contacts you". The Dealership says "It's over our heads. We just sent the pictures in and they said don't cover it." Nobody's listening...

Broke_Apex_Seal

Look I am not trying to be a dick here but. Get LEGAL help! Car manufactures never win in court. Present this in a fashion of "this could have injured me or my family" this sort of thing really get's the attention it deserves.

QuarterMile

I agree... They can't win this... It might take a while, but this isn't right. You are getting raped here.

Slims8

I know... I have talked to a lawyer, just to get some advice. I have sent mazda a letter asking them to fix this. All I can do now is wait for a response from them. I'm saving up my cash just in case they don't want to fix it. I wasn't going to go forward with a lawyer, but something about having a car with 13,000 miles on it and no Warranty doesn't sound like a real good idea.

Anybody have any inside connections????

snap-on

How long was the car in the shop BEFORE you heard it was not going to be covered?

And did you call Mz before they told you?