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What's the deal with the Hi-Power Renesis?

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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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What's the deal with the Hi-Power Renesis?

After reviewing all the evidence (anecdotal and dyno results from several different cars and dynos) my take on it is that the Renesis is down 30hp from advertised.

If Mazda knowingly delivered the cars shy on power, they should be ashamed of themselves, especially after the Miata fiasco. They had to know the car nuts would dyno theiir cars and on the internet, word spreads like wildfire. This is exactly the kind of buzz the rotary and the RX-8 does NOT need. The cars have been out maybe two weeks and already there is a major controversy, talk of buy-backs, compensating owners, etc.

What makes it especially sucky is I think a lot of us would have still bought the car at 220hp. (See my other poll.) Had the handlng and steering feel turned me on, I just may have. The styling, interior, and drivetrain feel are good enough, even if the car isn't as quick as its contemporaries.

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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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it will be rectified... no question.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by wakeech
it will be rectified... no question.
I hope it is... but, "no question"? That is very confident. I hope for the sake of the future RX-7 I want in my driveway that you are right... but 30hp is an awful lot, especially from a small engine without a valvetrain or other items that can be changed. What makes you so confident? It would make me feel better as I save for that RX-7...
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 10:06 PM
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Good grief there are enough threads on this topic! Please don't start any more, the discussion can continue in the already existing threads!
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by wakeech
it will be rectified... no question.
good to see at least one other person has faith in mazda
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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i doubt theres even a problem to be honest...
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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i dont know where this 30 hp came from,first dyno on the car with low miles was 184.we were looking for what,205 or 207.more like a 21 to 23 hp unless math is diffrent in your part of the country.
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by akrx8
i dont know where this 30 hp came from,first dyno on the car with low miles was 184.we were looking for what,205 or 207.more like a 21 to 23 hp unless math is diffrent in your part of the country.
I'm going by the advertised numbers. The brochure says 250, supposedly 247 actual, but many of us just say 250. We are looking for 205 or 207whp, which would equate to around 250 at the crank. The whp numbers are equating to an engine of around 220hp at the crank.

Several cars with various amounts of miles, some over 2,000, are all providing the same result. The engine is definitely not producing as promised. Someone referenced SCC and the stuck ports in another thread... I think they may be on to something.
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 12:25 AM
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no offence don,i just remember rotary news that the car had 204 to 207 at the wheels.
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 12:37 AM
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no offence don,i just remember rotary news that the car had 204 to 207 at the wheels.
None taken. I WANT the RX-8 to produce as advertised! I certainly want my friends on here to have a good car with a good rep, and it will lead to an RX-7 not too long from now.

When and where was the RN car tested? That is the first one I have heard of producing over 200 whp.
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 12:42 AM
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im sorry,i didnt say that correctly.i meant the news confrence they had with mazda prior to the usa release where mazda said those were the #'S at the wheels on hi-power
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 05:42 AM
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Rotary News are as concerned as the rest of us: http://www.rx8forum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7976
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