compaddict

http://www.rx8forum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7863

Vince

commentator

Duhhh, thanks very much, I will get this down in another 25 years or so.
I am not good at this stuff but it looks like you are putting down 186. Where does that put the mazda claims of 238 at this point?

BTW, thanks

revhappy

Based on a 17% drivetrain loss, it spits out 224 HP of engine HP. I guess, some can claim it has higher drivetrain losses, but who cares (other than seeing if Mazda is lying or not) if you are producing the same power at the wheels??

SuperRex

Hello, i haven't posted in a long time so i thought this would be a good time. :D Anways, ill get to posting. Given a 17% Drivetrain loss, the crank hp would be about 224hp. I'm satisfied

edit: haha rev we double posted...

Digisan

It's still 20HP shy of what Mazda stated, why are you satisfied?

SuperRex

because it's about 10 away from the restated hp, and also because the car can HANDLE and I like that. Besides, i'm easilly satisfied.

Digisan

That's too bad, I was hoping more people wanted what they paid for which was 207 RWHP as stated by Mazda. At this rate we will all be stuck with ~185RWHP.

86rx7

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/im-happy-report-9939/

190.2 hp if you go by the dyno run nobody seems to see or mention because it doesnt have the word "DYNO" in the title.

and besides 4000 miles is far from completly broken in.

I'd love to see you dyno with 87 octane, since your 2k miles more then the 190 run, which was done when your car had 175 hp, so you should get 15 more hp,.. if both runs, and cars were equal except for octane.

jonalan

I did get what I paid for -- a great looking car that's fun to drive, handles incredibly well, and is plenty quick enough for me. I could care less what numbers are written on a piece of paper. Drive the car, if you like it, buy it. If you don't, then don't.

KyngNothing

Where did you get 207?? Mazda has stated the car is 238 HP, taking the magical 17% everyone seems so enthused with, that ends up being 197 HP at the wheels...

Seems like in cooler weather, as the miles go up, people are getting closer and closer to this number...

Red Devil

Someone stated in another thread that Mazda claimed the 247hp spec was said to dyno around 207whp.

pelucidor

Mazda North America's SVP of Product Marketing/Development said this in an interview with RotaryNews:

RotaryNews: How much horse power does it make to the rear wheels?

Robert Davis: About 204-207.


See here for the actual interview. This was when everyone thought the RX-8 was making 247hp.

If we drop both crank and rwhp by 9 then 238 crank hp hitting 195rwhp would be close enough for most people (a 240hp S2000 makes about 195-203rwhp). Getting closer...

86rx7

and we've allready seen a dyno run of 190 hp, from a car with only 2k miles, and now another at 186, so why is everyone still so mistrusting and angry?

aussie77

Well, I'd say some of the owners are angry and mistrusting for several reasons. One of them simply is that some people like to feel wronged. The other camp are people who don't even own the car, but typically have a 'competing' model like the 350z and feel the need to bash the RX-8.

canzoomer

[editted by wakeech]

Magic8

Don't be too sad.

It's hard to know if the owner modified his/her car. You never know if turned up his boost or if the car is heavily modified.


Magic8

TybeeRX-8

And you know he was completely stock how? I don't think the result would be the same on a twisty road. But then again, if you can't drive fast with 90 hp, 300 hp ain't gonna help you.

canzoomer

Yeah, his rabbit had a loud muffler. Real Bad-*** mods!
Maybe he used NAWS, yeah, that must be it..

snicker..

this is so lame.

jonalan

You got that right! If your entire reason for buying/driving a car is to impress others, you are pretty lame.

TybeeRX-8

So, give it back, scrape up a few more bucks and buy a Mustang Cobra (if you can afford the insurance) and you can street race all you want, losing on occasion to a well-driven Z06!

wakeech

Hey gents,

sorry to report that all street racing stories are disallowed from this forum, and all legitimate (legal) motorsport competition belongs in the correct section.

thanks all,
'Keech

pelucidor

What about the story of the RX-8 that got beaten at the lights by a Toyota Camry Solara automatic. I don't know if the story was true but it has been referenced by several people on rx8forum (e.g. some S2000 owner, me once as a joke). I suggest you hunt and erase all mention of it. It never happened...

canzoomer

I would like to point out that accelerating up to the speed limit, while in total control, and with nobody in front of you IS LEGAL.

I do not consider that "street racing".

While you may consider what I posted to be street racing, then I would have to suggest that this situation would apply to at least 3/4 of the readers of this forum.

However, in the aim of pleasing you, let's revise the wording then:
"Based on a personal experience, in undisclosed conditions, a rather stock looking Volkswagen Golf 18ti is a faster accelerating car than an RX-8, at least below 100kmh."

P00Man

thats not true, ive driven the VW 1.8t GTI (at least this is what im assuming you mean by "Golf 18ti) and it is not faster than the 8 (at least it didnt feel so to me), in fact, i had a deposit on one up until a few weeks ago
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86rx7

not to mention he could have added a boost contoler, or any other of a number of electronic gizmos and had quite a bit more power. a car doesnt have to look modifyed to be modifyed.