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Old 04-25-2013, 01:47 AM
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shouldn't this be about oils, not bearings?
All I see is a bunch of numbers being thrown around about some bearings that 99% of the people here do not care or will never even bother researching... don't see how it will make a serious difference.
good history lesson tho lol
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Originally Posted by shazy
shouldn't this be about oils...
Speaking of oil, what happened to the thread by the guy who was going to settle this once and for all by independently testing various oils? I left the room to refill my popcorn bowl, and couldn't find it when I got back.

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Originally Posted by ken-x8
Speaking of oil, what happened to the thread by the guy who was going to settle this once and for all by independently testing various oils? I left the room to refill my popcorn bowl, and couldn't find it when I got back.

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I think I pulled the thread so far from topic that another guy started a new thread.

But you already replied in that one.
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So just for funnies I sent Amsoil a note asking them for their recommendation for our cars. Of course, I anticipated that I would get the generic "OE specification" type email, but I was more intrigued by their latter statement. It almost seems like they clicked the "generic warning about synthetic" button and then the "generic warning about 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine" button lol.

Hi Paimon,
We recommend OE 5W-20 or XL 5W-20 Synthetic Motor Oil at Mazda’s recommended oil change intervals for your application. Mazda has published a technical service bulletin recommending against using synthetic or semi-synthetic motor oil in its RX8 rotary engines; however, AMSOIL fully supports the use of OE or XL 5W-20 Synthetic Motor Oil in these applications.

You also noted that you are adding two-stroke oil to your fuel to lubricate the seals in the combustion chamber. We don’t recommend using AMSOIL Synthetic Two-Stroke Oil in this way as it is formulated for use in two-stroke engines, not four-stroke rotary engines. Improper use of AMSOIL Two-Stroke oil in this application could lead to the formation of carbon deposits.
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*sigh*

they are not gonna recommend you ANYTHING else. no point wasting time.
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I figured as much and expected no different. never hurts to ask.

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well, there is ur answer

I think the only manufacture that has the ***** to say something differ than Mazda is Royal Purple, but we know Royal Purple is not as good as it's hype.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
well, there is ur answer

I think the only manufacture that has the ***** to say something differ than Mazda is Royal Purple, but we know Royal Purple is not as good as it's hype.
agreed. I actually had a very nice convo with one of their 'support techs' a few years back. Very knowledgable and didn't give me the text book bs when it came to the car and oil. I just wish their product was a bit better for the price.
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yep, for the price, I pick redline over RP ANYDAY. (I said this like probably a million times, lol)
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
So just for funnies I sent Amsoil a note asking them for their recommendation for our cars. Of course, I anticipated that I would get the generic "OE specification" type email, but I was more intrigued by their latter statement. It almost seems like they clicked the "generic warning about synthetic" button and then the "generic warning about 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine" button lol.
The may have clicked on the generic buttons, but it looks like they gave their own opinion regardless of Mazda's position.

A few years ago I clicked through the "Which oil should I use" at Valvline's web site. The answer came back 5w20 semi-synthetic. I e-mailed them asking how they reconciled that with Mazda's no synth position. The pointed out that all 5w20s have synthetic stock, and are thus at least semi-synth.

That means that, as a user of GTX 5w20, I'm firmly within two of the three religious factions on this site: use dino and use synthetic. I'm just at odds with the use heavier faction. But being 2/3 in step with opinion here is awesome.

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On a scale of uselelss thread to useless thread, I vote this thread useless.
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**** man, I just got my popcorn !

NO MORE ?
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Originally Posted by shadycrew31
On a scale of uselelss thread to useless thread, I vote this thread useless.
Usefulness tends to be overrated.

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This might be of use to some.
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