Hesselrode

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i had mazda tell me not to use synthetic oil in my car. but when i bought it from this guy he said it had royal purple in it. is it okay to continue using royal purple synthetic oil. i like synthetic oil cuz you dont have to change as often and it doesn't break down as quickly.

Socket7

There are many threads on this. and even stickies.

Oil is oil. Change it every 3k miles and you should have no problems. Don't use synthetics because it lets you get lazy about maintenance (use them because you like spending money ). Some of the **** your oil collects is going to get injected into the combustion chamber, so keep it clean.

Jasonawojo

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Mazda does not recommend the use of synthetic oil, but their reasoning is questionable and many people here use synthetic without issue. Royal Purple is also one of the best, and they suggest their oil for rotaries. I started using 5w20 RP last oil change myself.

This topic is highly debated, here the big thread discussing the use of synthetic.

New Yorker

Mazda recommends non-synthetic oil in the 8. I use non-synthetic 5W-20, but many owners use and love Royal Purple - and other synthetics - and report no problems. Many believe synthetic is better for the engine. Do a search and you'll hear all sides.

nycgps

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Mazda told you ? who and where ?

Mazda does not recommend any aftermarket parts. Anybody listen ? Mazda's reason is that they might *decrease* performance and create problems. Some are true (Weapon-R *cough) but most are wrong, hell take AEM for example, Mazda rebadge their CAI, if I get AEM Mazda will talk ****, if I get Mazdaspeed nothing happen, both came from the same production line and company. Did I smell bullshit from Mazda ?

Mazda did not really create the Rotary engine idea, it was Dr. Felix Wankel. Mazda did was they greatly improved the design. So yeah you can say they know about Rotary engine more than most people. but lets also not forget Mazda is also a corporate. They have to protect their investor's profit. So they have to make compromise sometimes or pull out whatever bullshit possible to lower their risk. OMP using Engine oil is a compromise, cuz if they tell people that this car you have to *premix* in order to run, most ppl will be like wtf is that ? and this Synthetic thing. is one of the BS thing that Mazda made. It had a problem with Synthetic like 30+ yrs ago cuz Mazda used cheap crap seals and Synthetic oil suck back then. It melt the seals and motors got fudged up. After that Mazda changed the seal material but they also blame Synthetic oil. They never said 1 word about their own mistakes.

Jedi54

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it's safe to use, many people here use it without problems. Up to you whether you want to spend the extra money, I just stick with Castrol 5w-20

nycgps

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Everytime you use Synthetics, god makes a baby gay

- Quote : by MM

Razz1

So that's why all the gays started comming out in the MM thread for Hawt guys.

nycgps

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maybe ...

Hesselrode

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thanks for your input. what is the easiest way to change the oil myself. i have done tons of oil changes but i didn't know how cramped this car is and i don't exactly know where the oil filter is yet. is it upside down or right side up? oh yeah can i use the ramps you drive your tires onto to get under car or is it too low. i don't have the factory lip just plain jane bumper cover. i don't want to spill oil all over my engine compartment. speaking of messing engine compartment, the other day it was 8 degrees here. i have 50/50 antifreeze in my car and i also have a very small leak. like a gallon a month maybe, oh yeah i put 20,000 miles on it in 6 mo., just to give you an estimate of how much water i go through, but anyways something froze up.. engine got hot and antifreeze spewed all over the place. so i pulled over and put in more antifreeze and got in car started it up and it didn't get hot again.. what do you guys think froze? thermostat. and why did nothing get messed up? also had bubbling noise inside car. most possibly alot of air in engine cuz blew all antifreeze out. got rid of that when i filled up the rest of the way after i got off of work that day. how could i prevent this besides keeping it in my garage? tornado damage right now so not easily done. i just really wanted to know what stuck why it stuck and why nothing fudged up!!

nycgps

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Use some paragraphs for god's sake. Is it really that hard to tap the "Enter" key a few times ?

First off, The oil filter is located behind the engine, Open the hood, Walk to the driver side (Your right side) of the car, Look behind the engine, closeby the Firewall you'll see the filter.

Second, 50/50 coolant should NOT freeze even at 8 degrees Celsius or F. if there is a Gallon a month of *lost* Anti-freeze you might want to find out where the leak occurred.

You know when you fill Anti-Freeze you dont Fill it "all the way up to the top of the bottle" right ? If you do, you'll ALWAYS see Anti-freeze spilling all over the place.

Also if you have air in the cooling system, cooling efficiency goes down and it might over heat. So you should bleed the air out, how ? Please search the forum or go to the DIY section.

and for driving up the ramp thing, Yes you could, depends on your ramp, but I just need about 1 feet of space and I can change the oil. but thats just me.

God, what sup with the n00bs these days .... is it really that hard to just spend a few more minutes and look around the site ?

Hesselrode

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what do you mean by n00b? i have been on forums like this for about 7 years now. so new to rx-8 but not forums. i look around and if i don't see it after looking for a bit then i ask. i don't like wasting my time for an hour when i can ask and get asnwers easier. i don't use enter. a sentence is a sentence even though it is in paragraphs. what good does the paragraph do? lol

i think all of the air is out of the system and yes i usually fill it up all the way. but i have to fill it cuz my light will come on then i have to add some. i haven't pinpointed the leak yet i look often but don't see it. i only see it when i back my car out of the garage. i do use 50/50 cuz i buy it premixed and that is all i use.

thanks for all your help nycgps.

StealthTL

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easiest way to change the oil myself. i have done tons of oil changes
Only half the oil gets out during a change, the rest is in the coolers, so if you take the synthetic route of long changes, some of your oil gets REALLY old - change every 3k religiously.

where the oil filter is yet. is it upside down or right side up
Upside down in a really nasty place. If you don't know where it is don't change it. Leave it to the pros.

can i use the ramps you drive your tires onto to get under car
My ramps still need a couple of inches of wood in front before I get the wheels on.

but anyways something froze up
Let me say you are wrong that something froze - 50/50 might freeze here, but in Missouri? No. You ran with a low level, and boiled. You MUST get that leak fixed - rotaries that boil regularly are doomed. Take it to Mazda - if you have a housing seal problem, I have found they are very good about repairing it, even long after warranty is over.

See how nice paragraphs can be? Punctuation is our friend.....

S

nycgps

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Its nice to know, but you still failed your search class, please re-take them.


Same as above, Plus you failed the reading class. There is a DIY section right in the Tech Garage if you dont see it. Well, what else do you want me to say ?

Have you ever been to school? A paragraph makes reading easier. Im not sure what kind of grade you got in school but Im pretty sure I got a B+, not the best. but at least I know what a paragraph(s) is for.

Thats your problem, you should NOT fill it all the way, you'll need some room for the system to return the coolant. That explains why you're having over heating problem.

Add it to about a bit more than the 1/4 of the overflow bottle and should be fine. if the light comes on, fill it just a bit more, if it still comes on, check and see if the sensor is working properly. The sensor is part of the bottle so if you want to fix it, you have to buy a new bottle.

Depends on where you live. if you get really cold weather like Freezing Temp. You might want to use 50/50 just to be safe. but if your area NEVER sees Freezing temp, you can go with around 40/60 or even 30/70. but lets not get into that for now.

Edited: hmm I just notice where you live ... well, stick with 50/50. Your engine should not boil if its working 100%. You might want to find out where the leak is fast (or you were just overflowing it all the time)

Also when you go shop for coolant, be sure to get the regular *green* stuff, not the GM's Dex Cool bullshit.

You're very welcome. Check the DIY section u'll find ur answers easily.

Nubo

It gives the reader a chance to take a breath. It helps to organize your ideas. It makes a point.

Ever listen to someone who talks on and on without making a point? Reading a long text devoid of paragraphs is exasperating in much the same way. Faulkner couldn't pull it off, imo, you shouldn't even think of trying.

By the way, your lack of capitalization doubles the annoyance factor. I'm not sure why you bother with periods; why not go for the trifecta?

LionZoo

You sir just won Comment of the Day for that little gem. Ahh Faulkner...

Hesselrode

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listening is different than reading. reading you can stop and take a breath. listening you have no choice the talking is done by someone different so all you can say is slow down.

i have only gotten hot once and that was when i left it outside and it was like 6 degrees outside that night. i don't have the "boiling" issue. just when something froze. after my car completely warmed up it was fine.

the coolers you talk about what is that? how can you get the oil out of the coolers when you change the oil? I am going to go with synthetic but i don't think i will change every 3000 miles maybe 5000 or 7000.

I got 3.79 grade average in school out of 4.00. I served in the navy and had one of the hardest training classes there. so yes i made good grades and i know what paragraphs are for but in forums i never had any complaints till came to www.rx8club.com.

Startl_Respons

You lied. You did not do a search on synthetic oil or oil change. I search extensively before I ask questions. In fact, every time I've searched oil or brakes or brake pads or bleeding brakes or coils or spark plugs or deflooding, I get a ton of results. If anything, I get too many results, not the opposite. We don't like liars around here who take us for idiots.

Is your 3.79 weighted or unweighted? Were you in AP or IB track? If so and you gave us your weighted GPA, then your unweighted would be lower, which wouldn't be very impressive. In this case, so what if you took a bunch of AP/IB, you still got a bunch of B's. On the other hand, if you weren't AP or IB, then you suck even with a 3.79 unweighted GPA, because you would have taken baby classes and still couldn't pull out all A's.

You are annoying everyone here.

Startl_Respons

Ok, smartass, then please tell us what is the purpose of punctuation and paragraph separation? These human inventions certainly do not exist to assist the listener.


You are one cold cold horny bastard.


They're talking about igloo coolers. Those green and white plastic ones. Keeps food and **** cold. Convenient for picnics.


You had a hard navy training class? Hahahahahahaha ROFL.

nycgps

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Dont try to pull your GPA or whatever up here ...

Im just going to be a nice guy today, in order to get more oil out of the system than just *open the drain plug*. You can first, Jack only the driving side up. open the drain plug, when its almost done draining, put the driver side down and jack the passenger side up, let it drain, close it up, you drain about 5 quart something out instead of the *regular* almost 4 quart.

Some people disconnect the oil coolers to get even more out, well, Im lazy so I never did it, and I think that if I jack the car one side to the other, it should be more than enough.

7500 miles Im not sure if anybody done it, it should be fine but if u ask me, I will only try that with full synthetic oil.

Next time, I mean really, try to read around or search first.

HiTMaNN

+1


BTW Book smarts have nothing to do with car smarts and if you are so smart your sentence fragmentation is more horrible then a grade 3 student.

nycgps

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meeeeeeeee ????

HiTMaNN

LoL No why would I say that about you. I was agreeing with your statement on him bringing his GPA into it

nycgps

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then dont quote me !!! just the 1+ is enough