Notices
Series I Tech Garage The place to discuss anything technical about the RX-8 that doesn't fit into any of the categories below.

RX-8 struggles while redlining?

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Aug 21, 2016 | 01:37 AM
  #1  
Kinky Unikorn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kinky Unikorn
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, FL
RX-8 struggles while redlining?

Hey all, so I have a situation. For some reason, when I'm driving my car on the highway and I'm in 3rd, 4th, or any gear higher than that, when I try to gas it to red line my car, it seems my car starts to stutter or struggles to hit the red 8,000 + rpm. I do manage to hit it and hear the beep; just seems my car struggled in doing so?

I have taken it to the mechanic about a month ago or so, he said my car seems fine? It's a 2005, with approximately 94,000 miles or so on it. My 3rd party warranty expires at 96,000
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2016 | 07:02 AM
  #2  
BigCajun's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 0
Likes: 2,703
Did you get a CEL?
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2016 | 11:15 AM
  #3  
Chrishoky's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,186
Likes: 49
From: North Wales, PA
I had some hesitation issues recently, mostly in the 2K-5K RPM range. It ended up being fouled plugs. Check your ignition system health, that's where I would start.

Did you get a flashing CEL? That indicates a misfire if so.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2016 | 07:29 PM
  #4  
Kinky Unikorn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kinky Unikorn
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, FL
I do have a "CEL" on the car at the moment, is this something serious, or an easy fix that my Mechanic can do? And Chrishoky, I'll check that out as well, and see what my Mechanic says. Again, I was wondering if I should worry about it or not, cause I also need to purchase some tires soon and fix my sound system, since the clips are broken...
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2016 | 10:40 PM
  #5  
Chrishoky's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,186
Likes: 49
From: North Wales, PA
Its not ideal, so yes you should worry a bit. I would go to Autozone or something similar and have them read the CEL code for you. Then you can search google for what the code means. Sputtering could also be related to ignition coils, MAF sensor not reading correctly, etc. Could be many problems. The CEL code should give you a good starting point.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2016 | 10:53 PM
  #6  
StealthTL's Avatar
Metatron
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 7,286
Likes: 184
From: A Pacific Island.
Anybody who drives an '05 with that many miles, but doesn't own a code reader -

is to be admired.

However, anyone who has a check engine light and asks people on the internet
"What is this fault that my car is desperately trying to bring to my attention?"-

is a genuinely special person.




.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2016 | 12:12 AM
  #7  
Kinky Unikorn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kinky Unikorn
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, FL
Originally Posted by StealthTL
Anybody who drives an '05 with that many miles, but doesn't own a code reader -

is to be admired.

However, anyone who has a check engine light and asks people on the internet
"What is this fault that my car is desperately trying to bring to my attention?"-

is a genuinely special person.




.
My ultimate concern was if it's serious enough to take care of as soon as possible or if it can wait a bit, trying to prioritize things I need to do to my car; maintenance wise. A "CEL" can be numerous things, minor or serious. Now I know

Thanks for taking the time to input your thoughts though cutie
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2016 | 11:31 AM
  #8  
reddozen's Avatar
Gold Wheels FTW
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,124
Likes: 67
Originally Posted by Kinky Unikorn
My ultimate concern was if it's serious enough to take care of as soon as possible or if it can wait a bit, trying to prioritize things I need to do to my car; maintenance wise. A "CEL" can be numerous things, minor or serious. Now I know
With a rotary you should always check out any cells you get immediately. Don't even drive it around until you know what the issue is and if it's "serious" (if the light is on, it's usually serious with these cars). These motors don't last long if there's an issue with them. One big detonation, and you just cost yourself over $2000 for a rebuild.
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 08:33 AM
  #9  
hoopes123's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
My car literally just did this last night. It is an 05 automatic and it does not usually redline. Well last night it decided to and it did exactly what is being described here. Stuttering and CEL was flashing for about 30 seconds. Is this a serious problem and if so how do i fix it. Or how do i avoid having it happen again. Could it possibly be the fuel im using as well. I was not able to put 93 in so i had to go with 87 bu i usually put 93 in her most of the time. I very rarely put 87 in. So if you could possibly help me understand what is the problem that would be awesome. Thank you!
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 09:26 AM
  #10  
Loki's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,387
Likes: 1,106
From: Montreal
Originally Posted by hoopes123
My car literally just did this last night. It is an 05 automatic and it does not usually redline. Well last night it decided to and it did exactly what is being described here. Stuttering and CEL was flashing for about 30 seconds. Is this a serious problem and if so how do i fix it. Or how do i avoid having it happen again. Could it possibly be the fuel im using as well. I was not able to put 93 in so i had to go with 87 bu i usually put 93 in her most of the time. I very rarely put 87 in. So if you could possibly help me understand what is the problem that would be awesome. Thank you!
]

Likely ignition coil failure and/or catalytic converter failure. Do not drive the car in this condition, get it fixed. What do you mean "decided to"? Did you press full throttle or not?
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 11:16 AM
  #11  
hoopes123's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Loki
]

Likely ignition coil failure and/or catalytic converter failure. Do not drive the car in this condition, get it fixed. What do you mean "decided to"? Did you press full throttle or not?
Okay so i decided to red line it I completely messed that sentence up sorry and I did press full throttle. I hope it is not the cat or a coil failure. That would not be good, but if it is one of those... How much would it be to fix either of them?
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 11:21 AM
  #12  
iAchilles's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by hoopes123
Okay so i decided to red line it I completely messed that sentence up sorry and I did press full throttle. I hope it is not the cat or a coil failure. That would not be good, but if it is one of those... How much would it be to fix either of them?
The coil is relatively "cheap." But that word and this car, do not go well together. Coils can be cheap, i beleieve you can get them OEM from Autozone or similar for $120ish. Unsure about the CAT as i have a midpipe. If you are going to keep this car for a while, i HIGHLY recommend getting the BHR ( BlackHaloRacing ) coil kit. Relatively easy to install if you are a monkey with a wrench. This kit costs more, but it has an amazing guarantee, works for the car much better than any other coils, ( my opiniom ) and Charles will be a huge help!

Chris
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 11:25 AM
  #13  
gwilliams6's Avatar
40th anniversary Edition
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,949
Likes: 141
From: Grapevine, Texas
Just had another member with somewhat similar issues, and it was a clogged cat. Do not drive until you diagnose your cel and fix it. Get the cel read. we have a list on the forum of what each cel means. If you just have 2000 miles left on your warranty, by all means stop driving it, get a proper diagnosis and get it fixed while you still have some warranty left. (though we don't know what your third-party warranty covers ??)
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 11:27 AM
  #14  
hoopes123's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by iAchilles
The coil is relatively "cheap." But that word and this car, do not go well together. Coils can be cheap, i beleieve you can get them OEM from Autozone or similar for $120ish. Unsure about the CAT as i have a midpipe. If you are going to keep this car for a while, i HIGHLY recommend getting the BHR ( BlackHaloRacing ) coil kit. Relatively easy to install if you are a monkey with a wrench. This kit costs more, but it has an amazing guarantee, works for the car much better than any other coils, ( my opiniom ) and Charles will be a huge help!

Chris
Alright thank you so much for the help and I will keep you posted on if the problem goes away.
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 11:31 AM
  #15  
iAchilles's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by hoopes123
Alright thank you so much for the help and I will keep you posted on if the problem goes away.
No thing, but i would do what the other member recomended, dont drive it ti you diagnose and fix the issue. These cars are fickle....Good luck.
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 11:48 AM
  #16  
Loki's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,387
Likes: 1,106
From: Montreal
Originally Posted by hoopes123
Alright thank you so much for the help and I will keep you posted on if the problem goes away.

I guess it wasn't clear, if you continue to drive with a clogged catalytic converter, you will destroy your engine. This isn't like a "maybe it will be fine" problem. This is a "do I want to replace only the catalytic converter or the whole car?" problem.
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 11:50 AM
  #17  
iAchilles's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Loki
I guess it wasn't clear, if you continue to drive with a clogged catalytic converter, you will destroy your engine. This isn't like a "maybe it will be fine" problem. This is a "do I want to replace only the catalytic converter or the whole car?" problem.
+1 this is a serious issue.
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 12:53 PM
  #18  
BigCajun's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 0
Likes: 2,703
Originally Posted by hoopes123
My car literally just did this last night. It is an 05 automatic and it does not usually redline. Well last night it decided to and it did exactly what is being described here. Stuttering and CEL was flashing for about 30 seconds. Is this a serious problem and if so how do i fix it. Or how do i avoid having it happen again. Could it possibly be the fuel im using as well. I was not able to put 93 in so i had to go with 87 bu i usually put 93 in her most of the time. I very rarely put 87 in. So if you could possibly help me understand what is the problem that would be awesome. Thank you!
ALWAYS use premium.
Flashing CELS are always misfires.
Misfires don't just go away.
Usually caused by faulty ignition components.
They in turn can cause your cat to go bad, which in turn can cause misfires even after new ignition is installed.
Clogged/bad cats cause engine failure.

Misfires kill cats, bad cats kill engines.

Last edited by BigCajun; Oct 13, 2016 at 12:57 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2016 | 06:04 PM
  #19  
sinkas's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 477
Likes: 71
From: Fremantle, Western Australia
I cant imagine never redlining an rx8, i redline mine a few times every drive #gutrevving
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2016 | 05:32 AM
  #20  
mazdaverx7's Avatar
RX-Heaven
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,287
Likes: 256
From: Vermilion Ohio
Originally Posted by hoopes123
My car literally just did this last night. It is an 05 automatic and it does not usually redline. Well last night it decided to and it did exactly what is being described here. Stuttering and CEL was flashing for about 30 seconds. Is this a serious problem and if so how do i fix it. Or how do i avoid having it happen again. Could it possibly be the fuel im using as well. I was not able to put 93 in so i had to go with 87 bu i usually put 93 in her most of the time. I very rarely put 87 in. So if you could possibly help me understand what is the problem that would be awesome. Thank you!
Your engine requires the use of premium gasoline. 91 octane is just fine and 93 won't hurt a bit. Using anything less can cause knock and once the ecu gets a knock signal it will retard your timing (to save your engine of course) and you will get reduced power until there is no knock.

A flashing check engine light means there is a catalyst destroying misfire present. This is very bad and you should not drive the vehicle until the misfire is corrected. If you do not, not only will you ruin your catalytic converter, but you risk detonation and possible engine failure.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Red line envy
RX-8 Discussion
7
May 17, 2016 09:00 PM
samgriffin
West For Sale/Wanted
0
Apr 11, 2016 08:34 AM
samgriffin
West For Sale/Wanted
0
Apr 11, 2016 08:32 AM
speegs
West For Sale/Wanted
1
Mar 20, 2016 09:49 PM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:10 AM.