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RX-8 LPG Conversion - 2nd try (AC STAG)

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Old 01-20-2016, 10:40 AM
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Ok, so ignoring the fact that you are ignoring the advice from the users here about the internals of the car.

Originally Posted by TomX8
For all I care the engine dies after 40km, as the LPG installation will have saved me enough to get another RX8 and install another LPG installation.

If it's just the seals that will wear, I would just need to rebuild and replace the seals, which is still cheaper than an entire engine, isn't it?
Hi, new to the thread here. I'm always looking to save money, but this statement confuses me.

So you are prepared to spend the money on the initial install, then prepared for the engine to blow (hypothetically) in 40k, then buy another one (engine itself), pay for the install, then pay again to have another system fitted to the engine? Does all this math really work out? The cheapest engine swap I found here is $3700.00 for parts and labor. You also said you believe the system will pay off in 5 months give or take, but you drive 3k/month, this means that you'll hit 40k in just over 13 months. Is this really that much cheaper?

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Old 01-21-2016, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Love_Hounds
Care to give your sources more consideration seeing that they contradict themselves?
The first sources from forum hearsay. The second is an actual source.

Originally Posted by PN_Wheel
Ok, so ignoring the fact that you are ignoring the advice from the users here about the internals of the car.



Hi, new to the thread here. I'm always looking to save money, but this statement confuses me.

So you are prepared to spend the money on the initial install, then prepared for the engine to blow (hypothetically) in 40k, then buy another one (engine itself), pay for the install, then pay again to have another system fitted to the engine? Does all this math really work out? The cheapest engine swap I found here is $3700.00 for parts and labor. You also said you believe the system will pay off in 5 months give or take, but you drive 3k/month, this means that you'll hit 40k in just over 13 months. Is this really that much cheaper?
The installation costs 1300 USD, the car itself costed me less than 3000 dollars. I would rather count in litres than distance, since the car consumes more in the city than on the highway obviously. So the system and the car will be payed after 6000 litres as prices are now if the car runs 15l to 100km. As LoveHounds has said, the engine will wear, irrelevant of what fuel is used, so if that will be the case, I will be left with a dead engine and 3000 saved bucks for a new engine rather than a dead engine and nothing.
I don't need to fit another LPG system, I would just re-use the old manifold on which the LPG injectors are already installed and fit it to the new engine. It might need some recalibration though, but that's not a problem.

The LPG system is already installed and it runs quite well. I will post some pictures during this week.

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If he doesn't know the difference between cat blockage and engine carbon, then getting him up to speed on any of the other mythical claims he makes will be difficult (though entertaining).

Cats are never blocked by 'carbon'. They can melt from heat, or be blocked by deposits from 'ashless' oil additives, but carbon is never a problem.

Too much 'warming up behind a bus on his moped' perhaps....

Carbon Deposits
This is an example of a converter with carbon deposits in the ceramic catalyst. This is unusually a result of oil or antifreeze entering the exhaust system or a too-rich fuel mixture. The heavy carbon deposits clogs the converter and reduces exhaust flow. This increases backpressure and causes the entire exhaust system to heat up. The heat backs up into the engine compartment and may result in a number if heat-related engine problems.

Source: Catalytic Converter Failure

This is what I am talking about. I can't do much about engine carbon, but I can prevent that the cat gets clogged so far that it kills my engine due to the heating up of the exhaust system.

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So it's been a few months, still got a running engine?
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Originally Posted by Love_Hounds
So it's been a few months, still got a running engine?
Actually, yes! It's still running and the savings already paid the entire installation off. In another 30.000km I will have saved enough on fuel to buy another RX-8!
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