RX-8 LPG Conversion
10-26-2011, 11:07 AM
#26
No they can't. Better said... they can't in an efficient way.
LPG requires a different tune and you can't switch tunes on the go with the stock pcm.
Add the other bunch of bad things that lpg does and you get the whole picture lol
LPG requires a different tune and you can't switch tunes on the go with the stock pcm.
Add the other bunch of bad things that lpg does and you get the whole picture lol
10-26-2011, 12:08 PM
#28
Not really, besides that methane is in decline here in europe. LPG is way more popular within the "d'ho i'm broke but i want to drive a car anyway" communities.
Opening lpg fuelled rennys isn't a nice view btw.
Opening lpg fuelled rennys isn't a nice view btw.
10-27-2011, 09:40 AM
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I'd love to have a propane or cng powered rotary. Gasoline is the single dirtiest thing you could possibly run through your engine and it is responsible for nearly all of the deposits inside it.
10-27-2011, 09:48 AM
#33
Lubrication inside gas fuelled housings is horrible and the carbon deposits are so hardened that they're a bitch to clean. Most system start on petrol, then switch to lpg.
Even the springs show increased wear since the seals are less "stable" and chatter. The marks are similar to those found in the early pre-reflash engines.
10-28-2011, 11:59 AM
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It's true that gasoline is dirty but it also helps metered oil dilution (and allows us to premix).
Lubrication inside gas fuelled housings is horrible and the carbon deposits are so hardened that they're a bitch to clean. Most system start on petrol, then switch to lpg.
Even the springs show increased wear since the seals are less "stable" and chatter. The marks are similar to those found in the early pre-reflash engines.
Lubrication inside gas fuelled housings is horrible and the carbon deposits are so hardened that they're a bitch to clean. Most system start on petrol, then switch to lpg.
Even the springs show increased wear since the seals are less "stable" and chatter. The marks are similar to those found in the early pre-reflash engines.
10-28-2011, 06:54 PM
#35
However adding a 3rd oil nozzle doesn't cover the whole "surface".
If you see the cleaner part of the rotor face, where the oil dripples, you can see that it barely fills 2\5 of the whole face.
I'm not completely sure that just a 3rd oil injector can solve the issue, i'd premix anyway.
Lpg engines especially show a thinner part of the rotor being "cleaned" by the oil and some gunk forms for the combustion. You are igniting something that doesn't mix with it in the end... Lpg and engine oil don't mix well.
I'm not saying that building a lpg powered rotary is unfeasable, it surely can be done. The point is that doing it without harming reliability on a stock engine is nearly impossible.
12-29-2012, 08:08 AM
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what about these guys from UK ( http://www.egasuk.com/rx8.html ) look what they say:
"although all the LPG components appear to be standard, there are some real differences we'd like to keep to ourselves for now"
anyone know someone with a kit for these EGASUK guys ?
"although all the LPG components appear to be standard, there are some real differences we'd like to keep to ourselves for now"
anyone know someone with a kit for these EGASUK guys ?
01-31-2013, 08:58 AM
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I'm also really interested in this.
Looks like the failure case is for a 231 model, and there have been some successes with the 192.
I also saw the website mentioned above. My local LPG place says they have had a couple of 8's in from there which had problems though. They say it can be done with a 192, they won't touch a 231, but expect a few aftercare visits to get it right. But they can't guarantee the job, only the equipment they install, due to the nature of the job.
The place is called Avon Autogas in Bristol. The chap I emailed was very open and honest, I am just researching the system he said he would use (OMVL??) I would be interested to hear from the chap in Greece his opinion on the differences between this and his BRC system!!
If I take the plunge I'll let you know.
Looks like the failure case is for a 231 model, and there have been some successes with the 192.
I also saw the website mentioned above. My local LPG place says they have had a couple of 8's in from there which had problems though. They say it can be done with a 192, they won't touch a 231, but expect a few aftercare visits to get it right. But they can't guarantee the job, only the equipment they install, due to the nature of the job.
The place is called Avon Autogas in Bristol. The chap I emailed was very open and honest, I am just researching the system he said he would use (OMVL??) I would be interested to hear from the chap in Greece his opinion on the differences between this and his BRC system!!
If I take the plunge I'll let you know.
03-02-2013, 05:17 AM
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Polish / English translate about my Lpg
Rotary Power Forum :: Zobacz temat - Mazda Rx 8 z LPG
Rotary Power Forum :: Zobacz temat - Mazda Rx 8 z LPG
03-03-2013, 03:56 AM
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no one do compresion test becse engine run normaln there is no problem so why do compresion test?
The problem in LPG inst lpg but the confoguration of injection the gas no many persons can do that good.
The problem in LPG inst lpg but the confoguration of injection the gas no many persons can do that good.
08-26-2014, 05:20 AM
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update
Hi, after some years of running your RX-8 on LPG is there any update you could give?
I've had mine 3 years now and love it but want to convert it this year so would really appreciate some feedback,
thanks <3
I've had mine 3 years now and love it but want to convert it this year so would really appreciate some feedback,
thanks <3