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Old 01-28-2010, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nicosp76
whatever....advices coming from a person his engine died on him..
yea, unlike some moron like you, at least I know how gasoline and "GOOGLE" works.

Just because I eat healthy and exercise daily, doesn't mean I wont get Cancer.

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Everyone's a comedian - or thinks they are. Just part of the price of free speech. Don't take any of the cracks personally. Most of the folks who said rude things (including nycgps) are good guys, just having some fun.

BTW - if you want to have some fun back with nycgps, ask him if there's a relation between his failed engine and the fact that he used a type of oil Mazda recommends against.

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Maybe you should get your engine tested.

If I didn't, I wouldn't know.

not to mention, you got a 06. I got a 05. and yeah, my 05 had this "problematic" ECU flash a year longer than your 06 did.

and Im sure Engine fails even with Mazda's "recommendation", check Consumer reports and see which engine fails the most, 04-05.

If Mazda's stuff works 100% as it is in S1, they wouldn't make all these changes found in S2. I mean err ... no way ... Mazda's stuff works 100% ... oh yeah I must be wrong ... they made all those changes just for "fun" ... must be must be ...

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Originally Posted by ken-x8
Everyone's a comedian - or thinks they are. Just part of the price of free speech. Don't take any of the cracks personally. Most of the folks who said rude things (including nycgps) are good guys, just having some fun.

BTW - if you want to have some fun back with nycgps, ask him if there's a relation between his failed engine and the fact that he used a type of oil Mazda recommends against.

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I'm ok with having fun here and there but you do expect from people considering themselves proud to have such special type of cars/engines to tease maybe each other but above all to give a helping hand.

anyway, I appreciate the page you provided. I did spent a lot of time searching and asking but regarding the question I put there is simply no real, documented answer. I can find here and there that octane doesn't offer any power (fact) , low octane can damage the enginer (fact) and that premium petrol has more additives helping to keep the engine cleaner (fact/assumption ? )
Mazda on the other hand recommendes specific octane rating as 10:1 might be high..but is not outragous high compare with so many other engines out there...

now... here's a question that was never answered ! are all those facts/assumptions above applicable for the rotary engines ? All answers we can get here and there are based on general knowledge and not specific to our engines and their special way of working with their special design and parts.

example is that I got such a clear answer here in the firum that a very high octane petrol will not burn properly hence will create more carbon residues inside the engine while the 'go find the information yourself' sites (which by the way some of them look more realiable) say that premium quality fuels do have superior additive packages that help to maintain engine condition and reduce/dissolve carbon deposits. Completely contradictive !!!!
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Again, a simple Google search would find your answer.

hell, I just tried it myself, and the first result is exactly what you're looking for.

So yeah, you failed. Simple as that.
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Put some Racing Fuel in the RX8. Makes the car SCREAM!!! Or is that Ping, knock, boom?
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Again, a simple Google search would find your answer.

hell, I just tried it myself, and the first result is exactly what you're looking for.

So yeah, you failed. Simple as that.
I wonder if you are going to ask for money so you can just copy-paste the result your wonderous google gave you....
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Maybe this will help with your search.

http://www.googleguide.com/about/
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Originally Posted by jmc23200
Maybe this will help with your search.

http://www.googleguide.com/about/

another 'high IQ' smart ***....
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Ok, I'm sorry you do not acquire the necessary skills to Google.

1) Premium fuel should be used in the 8 unless you have a NEED to use higher octane. So, for you, don't use anything higher then 93.

2) Deposits are not from the gasoline, they are from the additives in the gasoline. The amount of deposits left behind will depend on the additives and most gas station have different additives. Just use a name you "trust"

3) I found this information within the first page provided by Google.

Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks.

I was trying to teach you to search so you don't get bashed for making stupid threads like this one.

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Originally Posted by nicosp76
I wonder if you are going to ask for money so you can just copy-paste the result your wonderous google gave you....
I think you should compensate us cuz you have been wasting our time.



Again, LEARN HOW TO SEARCH !

and stop asking people to spoon fed you, what are you? 2 yrs old ?
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Originally Posted by nycgps
I think you should compensate us cuz you have been wasting our time.



Again, LEARN HOW TO SEARCH !

and stop asking people to spoon fed you, what are you? 2 yrs old ?

get a life !!
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Originally Posted by jmc23200
Ok, I'm sorry you do not acquire the necessary skills to Google.

1) Premium fuel should be used in the 8 unless you have a NEED to use higher octane. So, for you, don't use anything higher then 93.

2) Deposits are not from the gasoline, they are from the additives in the gasoline. The amount of deposits left behind will depend on the additives and most gas station have different additives. Just use a name you "trust"

3) I found this information within the first page provided by Google.

Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks.

I was trying to teach you to search so you don't get bashed for making stupid threads like this one.

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All I said that I found all the above in the first and second and 3rd page. but how many times the first page is correct ?
and since all results are contradictive I decided to seek help here... but I guess most of the people are happy by what one page says.

anyway,
enough said....I got information by official mails with results and test. No need to continue this discussion further.

thanks for your responses ; at least you tried to expain something
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Originally Posted by nycgps
...not to mention, you got a 06. I got a 05. and yeah, my 05 had this "problematic" ECU flash a year longer than your 06 did...
Well, that was silly of you to get an '05 instead of an '06. Sure, it was 2005 and the '06's weren't out yet. But you could have tried a forward search in Google...

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Originally Posted by ken-x8
Well, that was silly of you to get an '05 instead of an '06. Sure, it was 2005 and the '06's weren't out yet. But you could have tried a forward search in Google...

Ken
...

ok, you win.

but my 05 PWN UR 06 in da twisties !

wait, nm ...
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My 04 pwn ur 05 and 06... I thinkz i haz vtec in mine ...... better go fillup with some 103 for the ponies
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Please dont take me serious
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Originally Posted by nicosp76
That's a RON95 (EU market) which is more or less equivalent to the AKI91 (US market).

The user manual of the RX8 states that RON95 or above should be used.

My question is solely about the carbon contains and carbon residues.
As someone said, "octane" rating is based on resistance to engine knock. There are many ways to achieve a higher octane rating; gasoline contains many compounds. So I don't know if there is a hard and fast rule that can correlate carbon accumulation with octane rating. Or with "Carbon content" -- all gas is hydrocarbons, after all. Carbon is a prime component of any gallon of gas. There is plenty of Carbon to go around. I'd say don't worry about Octane in this regard; the detergent formulation is probably more important, imo. Look for brands that comply with Tier 1 gasoline standards.
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Originally Posted by Nubo
As someone said, "octane" rating is based on resistance to engine knock. There are many ways to achieve a higher octane rating; gasoline contains many compounds. So I don't know if there is a hard and fast rule that can correlate carbon accumulation with octane rating. Or with "Carbon content" -- all gas is hydrocarbons, after all. Carbon is a prime component of any gallon of gas. There is plenty of Carbon to go around. I'd say don't worry about Octane in this regard; the detergent formulation is probably more important, imo. Look for brands that comply with Tier 1 gasoline standards.
Gasoline Octane is a rating that tells you how much fuel can be compressed before it spontaneously ignites. The higher the number, the more fuel that can become compressed without spontaneously igniting.
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Gasoline Octane is a rating that tells you how much fuel can be compressed before it spontaneously ignites. The higher the number, the more fuel that can become compressed without spontaneously igniting.
Yes. We measure it because we're interested in preventing engine knock.
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Yet some people run 87 and never hear a knock in their life. Explain please
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Originally Posted by jmc23200
My 04 pwn ur 05 and 06... I thinkz i haz vtec in mine ...... better go fillup with some 103 for the ponies
U sure its Vtec ?

I thought u got VVT-i only ...

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I do it for the lulz
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Yet some people run 87 and never hear a knock in their life. Explain please

From where comes "Yet"? Who/what are you contradicting?

87 octane is adequate for the stock engine. The manual agrees. Altitude and other environmental factors as well as driving habits and tuning can increase octane requirements. In other words, YMMV
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I did it for the knock
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I did it for the knock
I thought Vtec needs it ?
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It needs 103 octane..............




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