Notices
Series I Tech Garage The place to discuss anything technical about the RX-8 that doesn't fit into any of the categories below.

P0171 ... Im at my wits end

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Jan 28, 2026 | 09:44 PM
  #51  
Brettus's Avatar
Boosted Kiwi
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 20,839
Likes: 1,796
From: Y-cat-o NZ
Originally Posted by mangomikey
But if they're open to atmosphere, then my first video proves nothing right?

It would leak if pressurized but thats expected.

So back to square one?
Yep
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2026 | 10:12 PM
  #52  
mangomikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 67
Likes: 6
Damn.

What if im not even chasing a vacuum leak....i just tested the hose leading to the spider vacuum block. No smoke leaking out of there also.
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2026 | 10:23 PM
  #53  
Ricky SE3P's Avatar
Project Seca
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,771
Likes: 637
From: SoCal
Did you check everything else i mentioned? The thingsi had mentioned like the injector seats little orings, the vacuum line that goes for the jet air line?
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2026 | 11:01 PM
  #54  
mangomikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 67
Likes: 6
Originally Posted by Ricky SE3P
Did you check everything else i mentioned? The thingsi had mentioned like the injector seats little orings, the vacuum line that goes for the jet air line?
yep. im taking apart my fuel rail right now.

Reply
Old Jan 29, 2026 | 12:30 AM
  #55  
mangomikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 67
Likes: 6
Quick question - the vacuum block for the omp vacuum lines, is it supposed to hold any vacuum if i applied a hand pump to it? While i had access to it, i disconnected the line (circled in yellow) and put my hand vacuum pump to it and tried to draw a vacuum but it wouldn't hold any vacuum at all. Would this be suspect in my chase for the vacuum leak?



Reply
Old Jan 30, 2026 | 10:25 AM
  #56  
Ricky SE3P's Avatar
Project Seca
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,771
Likes: 637
From: SoCal
Speaking with mangomikey, hopefully we might have made some diagnostic/troubleshooting progress.
Reply
Old Feb 2, 2026 | 11:54 PM
  #57  
mangomikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 67
Likes: 6
Thanks @Ricky SE3P for all the help.

Update.

Let me preface this by saying i like to work on cars so chasing down this vacuum leak was "fun", like solving a difficult Lego so Im open to any further ideas... BUT it was still pretty frustrating. With the help of Ricky SE3P we brainstormed a few ideas and below is a list of the things ive done.
  • I've gone ahead and replaced the fuel injector seals and gaskets on the primary and secondary. Had them flow tested and cleaned.
  • Ive replaced the OMP vacuum lines and OMP vacuum block with a new one from Mazda.
  • Ive double checked all the vacuum lines on the solenoids and all the ones leading to the SSV, VDI, and Air pump. All good. Check valves are all facing the correct orientation.
  • Brake vacuum check valve is good. All vacuum lines are good.

The thing that I think did the trick was deciding to clamp down those rubber nipples on the intake accordion...i noticed they were a little loose in their fitting and so i took some hose clamps and clamped them in.

Now my readings are as follows.

Idle LTFT hovers around 9. STFT hovers around -1 to -3 and up to 1 - 2 at times. MAF g/s reading is still a bit low but better than before sitting at about 5.15 g/s.

This is much better than my previous readings of 4.3g/s at the maf and a 23% LTFT at idle.

I think theres still more that can be done but for now....im calling it a small victory and if i decide to chase it further, ill let you guys know.

Last edited by mangomikey; Feb 4, 2026 at 12:07 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2026 | 08:41 PM
  #58  
Loki's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,387
Likes: 1,106
From: Montreal
Curious. Did the MAF reading improve after any single one of those changes? Or all of them at once?

Snuggjng down the vacuum barbs in the intake is never a bad idea, but they shouldn't be loose in the first place. Like the hoses don't really stretch to be more loose around the barb unless they're cracked. What if you replaced the vacuum lines? And maybe the accordeon itself? It could have a hairline crack in the folds that would be hard to see/closed when not running but open under vacuum.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2026 | 12:19 PM
  #59  
mangomikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 67
Likes: 6
I did all the repairs at once and checked my readings so I'm unable to tell you which one improved the readings.

Which vacuum lines are you referring to?

As for the accordion, I pressure tested it with some smoke and didnt see anything. But i still am considering getting an aftermarket solution for the accordion...something like this?


Reply
Old Feb 4, 2026 | 01:20 PM
  #60  
Ricky SE3P's Avatar
Project Seca
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,771
Likes: 637
From: SoCal
I sent that your way as I strongly recommend it to replace the OEM piece.

Quality silicone hoses and hose clamps to replace any OEM hoses and secure them also wouldnt hurt/

Finally, using a proper caliper or other measuring tool, measure both the outer diameter and inner diameter of the MAF housing your intake uses in millimeters.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2026 | 02:18 PM
  #61  
mangomikey's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 67
Likes: 6
Originally Posted by Ricky SE3P
I sent that your way as I strongly recommend it to replace the OEM piece.

Quality silicone hoses and hose clamps to replace any OEM hoses and secure them also wouldnt hurt/

Finally, using a proper caliper or other measuring tool, measure both the outer diameter and inner diameter of the MAF housing your intake uses in millimeters.
Yep, i think ill make the purchase for that aftermarket unit and see if that effects anything.

Ill grab my digital caliper and measure Racing Beats maf tube.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
phantom-8
New Member Forum
14
May 26, 2025 06:28 AM
SashaThe40th
New Member Forum
8
Nov 23, 2024 08:02 AM
apex1
Series I Trouble Shooting
5
Jun 27, 2022 10:03 PM
bigfsi
RX-8 Discussion
7
Jan 2, 2018 08:22 AM
riot196
New Member Forum
3
Jun 25, 2016 12:30 PM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:54 PM.