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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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oil and more oil

Has anyone had any problems finding the correct oil for their RX8? My dealer still does not carry the correct weight of oil despite the supposedly factory trained mechanics and service?
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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what oil are we sposta use?

ive just been using 10 w30 mobil 1 ?
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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5W 20
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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no wrong for your own sake stop 5w20 is what the oil cap and manual says, anything else may get gunked up (10W30 is thicker i believe), you risk damaging a lot of internal components in the long run with incorrect oil
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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5w 20 is the spec oil but it is not easy to find, unless you really really search...
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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God, don't you people read the manual?

Anyway, dauntless, I found 5W-20 in Walmart. I also bought a case of it online. Just do an Internet search if you can't find it locally.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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loco,

thanks for the post and will do that, last check with walmart was a no but will keep on, thanks again..
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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some good discussion about 5W 20...


http://www.canadiandriver.com/articl...0engineoil.htm

http://www.oil-tech.com/5w20.htm
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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2 more links

http://www.speedstreet.org/forums/sh...0563#post70563

http://www.thebestsyntheticoil.com/5w20.htm
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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I find it everywhere. I usually go ro Pep Boys or Aid Auto Stores.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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I was able to find a case of Castrol GTX 5w20 at Pep Boys.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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I thought you weren't supposed to use synthetic oil with rotary engines because the engine burns a little oil as a normal part of its operation and it can't do that with synthetic
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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As the CanadiaDriver article points out the 5-20 is primarily a trick mfgs. use to get slightly better fuel numbers. Dodge has stuck with 10-30 as they care more about engine life. For the RX8 a 5-20 would be better in cold ares as it will pump though out the engine faster when cold starting. WHen hot the 30 weight is probably better, but the difference would vary more by engine and oil temp than the weight of the oil. If you run real hard in Nevada with temps over 115 then the 30 or even 40 weight would be best.

Check what NASCAR or other racing groups use in their engines and you will be surprised with 50 & 70 weight engine oil to handle the high temps and loads.

The rotary is much easier on oils than most engines. There are no blow by gases entering the crank case and hense less acid and other things building up in the oil. Chevy was planning on having the automatic trans and rotary engine useing the same oil system before they canceled the project (remember the Vega and the large transmission hump?) Mazda was really being conservative since the rotary has not been out in years and with a new customer base in requiring 7000 mile oil changes.

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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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Kragen/Schucks/Checkers, Autozone, Pep Boys, Napa Auto Parts, etc.etc.etc. Theres tons of em all over California to say the least, and I've never had a problem finding 5w20. Granted they might not have the specific brand of oil you're looking for, but they always have at least one brand available in 5w20.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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its 5W-30 for our europian cars...
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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ken, yoroshiku...

found some today at traget, just came in last week, said they dont usually order, pep boys said yes indeed, come on by...

thanks
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by osudewd
I thought you weren't supposed to use synthetic oil with rotary engines because the engine burns a little oil as a normal part of its operation and it can't do that with synthetic
Yes, I have heard the same from multiple sources. Synthetic apparently does not burn off like its non-synthetic counterpart. My mechanic emphatically stated "do not use synthetic in an rotary".

KMart carries 5w20 as well. It's a lot more common than I thought.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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I bought my 5-20 castrol gtx at auto zone.

If you use Synthetic motor oil in your car you will burn out your muffler bearing, J/K.
If the book says it's bad Don't use it.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 01:39 AM
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found 5w-20 very easily at pepboys and at autozone... ::shrugs::
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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as you can see:
Attached Thumbnails oil and more oil-synthok_case_closed.jpg  
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Logan072
If the book says it's bad Don't use it.
Exactly. So where in the owners manual does it say that Synthetic is bad? Exact page number, please. I'm asking because MY owners manual says absolutely nothing about not using synthetic. It specifies oil of 5W20 viscosity that meets API SL spec, that's it. If you want to use a 5W20 API SL synthetic oil, then it's meeting Mazda warranty requirements and is perfectly fine to use.

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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What's wrong with 5w-30?
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by MTLbroker
What's wrong with 5w-30?
Nothing, actually. I strongly suspect that 5W30 would be better, long term, for the engine. Mazda North America specifies 5W20, but everywhere else in the world Mazda specifies 5W30 for the RX-8. It's widely assumed that Mazda NA spec'd 5W20 for a very imperceptibly slight improvement in fuel economy - a known Ford and Honda trick.

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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you can get it at advance/auto zone/wal-mart/k-mart all have mobile 1/ 5-20w
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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My dealer put in 5W30 at last oil change and I have a few quarts of 5W20. Is it OK to add the 20 to the 30?? Also I got reflashed on June 12 Part# N3H6-18-881A. Anybody know which flash I got??
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