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Old 06-30-2005, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoomZoomH
i think mazda is trying to be nVidia and just KEEP RELEASING NEW DRIVERS
i Wish i could just download the new flash like i would with Nvidia drivers by plugging my router into my 8....then maybe i wouldn't be on the L flash still!
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Old 06-30-2005, 03:11 PM
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if you ar eon L you should not be- dealers were instructed ages ago to get all vehiccles to at least M. you should go get an update.
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Old 06-30-2005, 08:32 PM
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Can anyone tell me which WDS version contains the R flash?

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Old 06-30-2005, 09:18 PM
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I will check at work tom. what disk we're on (I believe 37.3) but it wasn't on the disk, I had to update via Fordstar.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:19 AM
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Im getting my car flashed on tuesday, I can verify for you if somebody doesn't beat me to it. I'm already on "P" flash, and my car needed to be serviced for a CEL anyway, so I figured id ask. Ill find out on tuesday.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:22 AM
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got it yesterday, with a new o2 sensor. my observations 2k ~5k much smoother and quicker. and i might bust out a mpg record. but got new tires at the same time.


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are you sure its r flash?
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
if you ar eon L you should not be- dealers were instructed ages ago to get all vehiccles to at least M. you should go get an update.
yea i'm on L i never got a letter
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What flash?

Shoot, I have no clue what flash I have...according to my receipt my dealer did not flash my car last time I was in, nor the time before that...maybe they did not document it, guess I should ask.

I did notice a difference in my car after I got an oil change but it could have been that little devil in the back of my head saying "you just washed it and maybe they flashed it and therefore it is faster, go faster, go faster, what speed limit sign, punch it!!!" Thankfully I did have to get back to work, that little guy is going to get me in trouble one day! :D
I purchased my car in October but if my flash is like the inspection sticker that they gave me then I am probably still on A flash! :p
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Originally Posted by Marietta 8
No new flash at this time other than for 05 model. It is the equivelent of p for 04.
Marietta 8, can you tell me specifically when this 05MY came out? I took my car to the dealer to see if I can get my rusty rotors painted (yes, 05s still have rusty rotors!) and I asked them to flash the car to the most recent one. The service guy told me there is no TSB for a reflash out for 05 cars. I did this about 2 weeks ago.
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Marietta 8, can you tell me specifically when this 05MY came out? I took my car to the dealer to see if I can get my rusty rotors painted (yes, 05s still have rusty rotors!) and I asked them to flash the car to the most recent one. The service guy told me there is no TSB for a reflash out for 05 cars. I did this about 2 weeks ago.

Where's the TSB for the rusty rotors? I took it to the dealer and they said there's no tsb for it (I have an '04).
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Originally Posted by swoope
got it yesterday, with a new o2 sensor. my observations 2k ~5k much smoother and quicker. and i might bust out a mpg record. but got new tires at the same time.


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Why the new sensor?
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:53 PM
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Well, today was "routine maintenance day" for my Pepper. I wrote-up a note to inform them that I knew about the "P" flash and I stretched the truth just a little about how crappy my MPG was, that I was on the "M" flash and that youze guys were praising the "N" flash, how it improved MPG and performance in general, that if they didn't have the "P" flash, they should at least have the "N" flash, and I want either one.

Well, no questions asked, they did the reflash and were all sorts of polite with me and, along with my free scheduled maintenance, I walked out with another 0.00 on the bottom line. Happy day. The ride home was very good - engine response was real nice. Power was good throughout the rpm range, as best I could tell, with cars all over the place. Idle is smooth. All is well.

Then, I get home to tell y'all this stuff and find this "R" flash stuff. Argh. So, I call my service guys and ask. The third guy I guess was the one who was supposed to know, and he told me "P". I dunno. Did he really know, or was he telling me what he thought I was wanting to hear? I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they updated their WDS this morning because of me, and because of that, I might have gotten the "R" flash, them not even knowing.

So, I checked the AC cutout rpm. Sure enough, it's right about at 7,500, definitely not the old 5,500. So, they say I have the "P" flash, but how do I know by the car itself, if it's actually the "R" flash? I really don't want to ask that service guy anything else about it...

oh yeah, my invoice has no numbers of any kind like the ones mentioned here.

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Old 07-01-2005, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Niro
Where's the TSB for the rusty rotors? I took it to the dealer and they said there's no tsb for it (I have an '04).
there was no TSB. Dealers were doing it out of courtesy as long as it was approved by the regional head honcho.

My dealer said the regional Mazda rep discontinued approval for this job due to people keep coming back for repaint (bunch of BS if you ask me).
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No ones knows what the R flash is for and since it is so new if the shop doesn't keep the WDS hooked up the internet they wouldn't even know anything about it.
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The 05's have different letters as a suffix i.e. c,d,e for calibrations. I think it's either d or e at this time and it is the equivelent of p for 04 models. ESI and shows nothing new.
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Old 07-02-2005, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Why the new sensor?
cel back in feb. just got around to getting the car in. on a note, just got the new kumho ecsta spt same size as the bridgestones. the speedo now only reads .8mph fast as tracked by a garmin wass enabled gps.

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Old 07-02-2005, 11:59 AM
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they should just given the car a damn usb cable and everyone gets a login to mazda usa to flash it every weekend.
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Originally Posted by wedge357
Marietta 8, can you tell me specifically when this 05MY came out? I took my car to the dealer to see if I can get my rusty rotors painted (yes, 05s still have rusty rotors!) and I asked them to flash the car to the most recent one. The service guy told me there is no TSB for a reflash out for 05 cars. I did this about 2 weeks ago.
Not to hijack, but what is your production date and mileage? I have a Shinka w/ about 2,500 miles on it and NO sign of rust. It was built in Nov or Dec, I think Dec right before the fire, and my rotors are still nice and grey.
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Originally Posted by wedge357
there was no TSB. Dealers were doing it out of courtesy as long as it was approved by the regional head honcho.

My dealer said the regional Mazda rep discontinued approval for this job due to people keep coming back for repaint (bunch of BS if you ask me).

there IS or WAS a some sort of official mazda message for it...I printed it, and took it to my dealer to get them to repaint mine.


"Do an ESI search with 2004/RX8/Brakes. It will post as an MRI - Mazda Repair Information"

RUST ON BRAKE ROTOR HUBS

Applicable Models:
2004 RX8 0000000 ZZZZZZZZ

0003559:

Rust can be seen on the brake rotor hub area when looking between the wheel spokes. 1. Remove rust from hub(s) by sanding. 2. Clean/prep hub surface with primer. 3. Mask off brake rotor area. 4. Apply primer around entire hub area. 5. Once primer dries, apply a heat type silver paint to the affected area to reapir the vehicle. Note: Replace the rotor(s) only if the affected area cannot be repaired enough to satisfy the customer.

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I wish they would release what each new flash updates!
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:42 AM
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marietta the did in fact release a new level for all the rx-8s here are thefile names i have posted twice before. also note that its not just the "suffix" tha tis different with the 05 flash nomenclature the "prefix" is different as well "N3K" instead of "N3Z".
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SW-N3Z1ER000, SW-N3Z2ER000 for 2004 cars

SW-N3K6EE000, SW-N3K7EE000 2005 Fed/Canada cars

SW-N3K8EE000, SW-N3K9EE000 2005 California cars

people kept asking "should i go get P?" and i said " wait until you have some problem cause there will be a new one by then"

i dont know yet if this is they were/are working on for the AT enigine issue that had to be passed by the epa.

on the brake thing- its weird the mazda regiona; guy would say to stop doing th eservice since the MRI says if the repaint doesnt work to replace them.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:03 PM
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New 'R' flash

I just went from 'N' to the new 'R' PCM reflash.

My gas mileage has gone up about 2 mpg, consistently. Either the flash is to blame or switching from the stock 225/45 18 RE040s to 245/40 18 F1s did it.

Of course, the car is still painfully slow, so they must've leaned it out in closed loop.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:06 PM
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um leaning out slows the car down? and you think they changed the closed loop afr from 14.5 to what?
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