gas in oil
gas in oil
08-10-2012, 04:42 PM
#7
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Blowby in a piston engine is pretty much the counterpoint to rings getting lubed by crankcase oil. So in a rotary it would be past the side seals, right? The ones some of us never think about because of our fixation with the tip seals.
So to add to Timex's anxiety it could be a bad side seal.
Ken
So to add to Timex's anxiety it could be a bad side seal.
Ken
08-10-2012, 04:49 PM
#8
I don't see whats to worry, I've logged tons of miles in 3 different Rx7's, all had the fuel smell and they all survived me somehow. This is my fourth, it's the newest rotary I've owned and it has the same smell as the old ones. I think part of it is from not being able to change all the oil out when doing a simple oil change.
10-19-2018, 12:26 PM
#9
Old thread that I'm reviving as I couldn't find another one on the topic. "gas in oil" is a tough one to search on it seems as it pulls up so many posts.
Anyway, today I got an oil change on my 2005 RX8 and the mechanic said there was gas in the oil and asked if I was having starting problems to which I answered no. I had been having low power issues below 4000rpm but just swapped out my coils and it fixed that problem (and starting does seem a bit faster too).
Should I be worried about gas in the oil? I don't have any CELs, power, idling, or starting issues. I do find that the exhaust is pretty smelly but to be honest I can't tell anymore if it's always been like that as our other primary car is an EV (BMW i3)! The mechanic said the exhaust was really smelly too but he could not find any leaks in the exhaust system, and had no explanation for it. This was just Midas and not any special knowledgeable place about rotaries.
Oh, the car has 105K km on it, original engine, and I'm original owner. No mods to speak of.
Thanks, ...Roger
Anyway, today I got an oil change on my 2005 RX8 and the mechanic said there was gas in the oil and asked if I was having starting problems to which I answered no. I had been having low power issues below 4000rpm but just swapped out my coils and it fixed that problem (and starting does seem a bit faster too).
Should I be worried about gas in the oil? I don't have any CELs, power, idling, or starting issues. I do find that the exhaust is pretty smelly but to be honest I can't tell anymore if it's always been like that as our other primary car is an EV (BMW i3)! The mechanic said the exhaust was really smelly too but he could not find any leaks in the exhaust system, and had no explanation for it. This was just Midas and not any special knowledgeable place about rotaries.
Oh, the car has 105K km on it, original engine, and I'm original owner. No mods to speak of.
Thanks, ...Roger
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10-19-2018, 01:00 PM
#10
When you swapped the coils did you also change the spark plugs?
If your car spends a lot of time cold idling, then yes, you would have gas in the oil. It's not bad, and everybody has some quantity of gas in the oil (on any car). Problems start when there's more than a fraction of a %. One thing you could do is get your used oil analyzed by someone like Blackstone labs.
As for the exhaust smelling rich: on cold start up yes, but when warm it shouldn't smell. There could be a few causes: old spark plugs, rich condition due to vacuum leak, failed catalytic converter, etc. I'd give those items a review to confirm/deny any potential problems.
If your car spends a lot of time cold idling, then yes, you would have gas in the oil. It's not bad, and everybody has some quantity of gas in the oil (on any car). Problems start when there's more than a fraction of a %. One thing you could do is get your used oil analyzed by someone like Blackstone labs.
As for the exhaust smelling rich: on cold start up yes, but when warm it shouldn't smell. There could be a few causes: old spark plugs, rich condition due to vacuum leak, failed catalytic converter, etc. I'd give those items a review to confirm/deny any potential problems.
10-19-2018, 02:26 PM
#11
When you swapped the coils did you also change the spark plugs?
If your car spends a lot of time cold idling, then yes, you would have gas in the oil. It's not bad, and everybody has some quantity of gas in the oil (on any car). Problems start when there's more than a fraction of a %. One thing you could do is get your used oil analyzed by someone like Blackstone labs.
As for the exhaust smelling rich: on cold start up yes, but when warm it shouldn't smell. There could be a few causes: old spark plugs, rich condition due to vacuum leak, failed catalytic converter, etc. I'd give those items a review to confirm/deny any potential problems.
If your car spends a lot of time cold idling, then yes, you would have gas in the oil. It's not bad, and everybody has some quantity of gas in the oil (on any car). Problems start when there's more than a fraction of a %. One thing you could do is get your used oil analyzed by someone like Blackstone labs.
As for the exhaust smelling rich: on cold start up yes, but when warm it shouldn't smell. There could be a few causes: old spark plugs, rich condition due to vacuum leak, failed catalytic converter, etc. I'd give those items a review to confirm/deny any potential problems.
I think it still smells when it's warm but I'll keep checking. I did about 15minutes of high rpm driving this morning on the way to work to see if that helps clear anything out. Unfortunately the used oil has now been chucked and I wasn't planning on changing the oil again this season before I put the car away for winter.
I'll do the visual check on the CAT at night to see if I see any glowing unless you can suggest a better way. It wouldn't surprise me if the CAT is bad given there is 100K km on the car and having driven it with crappy coils for a while.
Thx
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10-19-2018, 03:16 PM
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Smoking turbo yay
If you are just hot idling, you shouldn't smell anything with a cat, other than maybe a very faint sulfur smell depending on the gas you use.
10-19-2018, 05:06 PM
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If your cat is bad you will get a smell all the time
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