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06-19-2006, 11:23 PM
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Ok here is one for you all to try and figure out. I have an 05 GT A/T. We are getting what sounds like a pinging/ rattle noise from the engine at about 3/4 throttle. It has about 6400 miles on it and has been back to the dealer and had the computer removed and sent to CA for what is suppost to be the most current flash. We got the car back and it was fine for about 1 week and started again. Before I took it in it would only make the noise in 2nd gear at 5000, 5200 rpm at WOT. Now it does a lot more often in 1st and second gear at lower and higher RPM's. The dealer says its the gas we are using. We have running Chevron Supreme. So to please the dealer ship we have switched to Shell with no change. Any one got an insite to this before I call the dealer back and take it in again??? This has really taken the fun out of this car. We have had it for 4 months now and has spent a total of 3 weeks at the dealership. Of course now it needs to go back yet again!!!! Please help!!!!!
06-20-2006, 01:10 AM
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Is this title ok?
The only one that I know newer than the SW-N3Z2ER000 is the SW-N3ZXE0000 that has data differences as described. Is there a part number publish somewhere? I would love to get my hand on any new flash image.
06-20-2006, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fishnhard
Ok here is one for you all to try and figure out. I have an 05 GT A/T. We are getting what sounds like a pinging/ rattle noise from the engine at about 3/4 throttle. It has about 6400 miles on it and has been back to the dealer and had the computer removed and sent to CA for what is suppost to be the most current flash. We got the car back and it was fine for about 1 week and started again. Before I took it in it would only make the noise in 2nd gear at 5000, 5200 rpm at WOT. Now it does a lot more often in 1st and second gear at lower and higher RPM's. The dealer says its the gas we are using. We have running Chevron Supreme. So to please the dealer ship we have switched to Shell with no change. Any one got an insite to this before I call the dealer back and take it in again??? This has really taken the fun out of this car. We have had it for 4 months now and has spent a total of 3 weeks at the dealership. Of course now it needs to go back yet again!!!! Please help!!!!!
it is not the gas you are useing... you have a big problem.. you are going to get a new motor and a second oil cooler if you dont have one...
might find mnao in your owners manual...
beers
06-20-2006, 01:18 AM
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Is this title ok?
Originally Posted by daisuke
so are there any drawbacks at all in using premix in the gas?
06-20-2006, 01:21 AM
#30
Originally Posted by seikx8
The only one that I know newer than the SW-N3Z2ER000 is the SW-N3ZXE0000 that has data differences as described. Is there a part number publish somewhere? I would love to get my hand on any new flash image.
looks like you have the old n flashes....
it was a good one. but the k and r have replaced them... and now this one...
yes they are out there but unless you have can get to the ford or mazda tech area... no not for you...
beers
06-20-2006, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
ok,
the new flash is out...
some of you know of the problems i have had... the sudden powerloss on cruise.... i have pm many about this issue...
well now i can talk about it...
the new flash add more oil during light cruise conditons... what was happening was under light throttle for extended periods of time not enough oil was getting into motor to keep the seals sealed...
gasses would start to get by, engine temp and cat temp would go way up. and you lose the ability to accellerate...
if you let it go long enough you get knock, and then you lose the ability to get over 4k rpm.. (feels like a clogged cat)
then you let it cool down and all is fine...
i have know about this for about 2 months now and could not talk openly about it...
i have also been running pre mix during that time, and not one problem with it during that time...
the flash also is supposed to smooth the idle a bit...
i will let you know, am getting done in the morning..
beers
the new flash is out...
some of you know of the problems i have had... the sudden powerloss on cruise.... i have pm many about this issue...
well now i can talk about it...
the new flash add more oil during light cruise conditons... what was happening was under light throttle for extended periods of time not enough oil was getting into motor to keep the seals sealed...
gasses would start to get by, engine temp and cat temp would go way up. and you lose the ability to accellerate...
if you let it go long enough you get knock, and then you lose the ability to get over 4k rpm.. (feels like a clogged cat)
then you let it cool down and all is fine...
i have know about this for about 2 months now and could not talk openly about it...
i have also been running pre mix during that time, and not one problem with it during that time...
the flash also is supposed to smooth the idle a bit...
i will let you know, am getting done in the morning..
beers
Someone on here has had this same issue. What helped him was replacing the cat with after-market one. Howevery living in extream heat environments will not help as you have stated the main issue is not enough oil.
Thank you.
06-20-2006, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cpo32
What should I say to my dealer about wanting the new flash. The last time I talked to them, they had no idea what a flash was.
06-20-2006, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
looks like you have the old n flashes....
it was a good one. but the k and r have replaced them... and now this one...
yes they are out there but unless you have can get to the ford or mazda tech area... no not for you...
beers
it was a good one. but the k and r have replaced them... and now this one...
yes they are out there but unless you have can get to the ford or mazda tech area... no not for you...
beers
no he is quoting the R flash file name and one additional file name that is either subsequent or concurrent. i looked myself and still ther eis no "T"(
please everyone understand that these file names and numbers adn the letter T refrer to 2004 file names. 2005 cars would have adifferent file name
CALIBRATION INFORMATION
2004 A/T N3Z1-18-881S SW-N3Z1ES000 All
2004 M/T N3Z2-18-881R SW-N3Z2ER000 All
2005 A/T N3K6-18-881F SW-N3K6EF000 Fed/Canada
2005 M/T N3K7-18-881E SW-N3K7EE000 Fed/Canada
2005 A/T N3K8-18-881F SW-N3K8EF000 California
2005 M/T N3K9-18-881E SW-N3K9EE000 California
the lettter after teh "E" is the flash level. MT cars would most likely skip a letter so as to be on the same level again as their AT counter parts but they dont have to. so the MTs would move to S/T or F/G and the AT would move to T or G
cpo32- where do you live?
Aeseras- they arent using the WDS now. there is no longer an update disc. well at least they shouldnt be. by now all should have moved to the newer machine . but its the same idea- they should know how to get updates.
droger ther have not been 4 new documents released. id love for you to get the numbers on the docs they are talking about. it might be fun to expose the incompetence
delrmx01 it is not out yet that i have been able to find. had trouble getting to llok yesterday tho.. hag on ill post it as soon as one comes available
06-20-2006, 10:30 AM
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on pre mix questions---if you go over 1/2oz per gal then you can get into lowering the octane in your gas etc. DO NOT USE ANY CASTOR BASED PREMIX--it will mess your cat. Use syn only and a high grade one at that. No smell no smoke no increase in ash, no spark plug fouling, no problems. even with the new flash i am still going to be using pre mix til i learn otherwise.
I feel that any car(not 2 stoke motorcycles etc) made with a suppliment oil injector to the combustion chamber will next some pre mix if the car is driven in any other manner than Normal daily driving. It doesnt hurt anything and it sure can help.
olddragger
I feel that any car(not 2 stoke motorcycles etc) made with a suppliment oil injector to the combustion chamber will next some pre mix if the car is driven in any other manner than Normal daily driving. It doesnt hurt anything and it sure can help.olddragger
06-20-2006, 11:12 AM
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Ok swoop, I have a cooler behind each fog lamp, I am assuming those are the oil coolers. The dealer said if the gas didnt make a difference then they wanted to try one more thing. If that doesnt work then they said its a new engine. I dont think I am going to let it get that far. I have filed a complaint with Mazda of North America. If they say I need a new engine then I am going to push for a new car. This is crazy!!! I have never had this many problems with a new car!!! When I worked for Chevy we had the cold start knocks with the trucks but that was a carbon bulid up on the pistons. Any idea what the cause of the noise is that I am haveing. Oh yea one other question, do these cars have a knock sensor? THanks
06-20-2006, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by fishnhard
Ok swoop, I have a cooler behind each fog lamp, I am assuming those are the oil coolers. The dealer said if the gas didnt make a difference then they wanted to try one more thing. If that doesnt work then they said its a new engine. I dont think I am going to let it get that far. I have filed a complaint with Mazda of North America. If they say I need a new engine then I am going to push for a new car. This is crazy!!! I have never had this many problems with a new car!!! When I worked for Chevy we had the cold start knocks with the trucks but that was a carbon bulid up on the pistons. Any idea what the cause of the noise is that I am haveing. Oh yea one other question, do these cars have a knock sensor? THanks
06-20-2006, 12:52 PM
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Swoope, I really hope this fixes your problem.
06-20-2006, 01:42 PM
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I do realize these engines are not like piston engines. I am a mechanic, but not trained with the rotary. I just cant belive that my engine with less than 7k miles needs replaced is all. It runs fine just knocks/pings when I start to get on it. It almost sounds like the timing on a piston engine when it is advaned too much.
06-20-2006, 02:12 PM
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what's the difference?
Originally Posted by swoope
funny you should mention that... i switched to 5 30 rp. at 35k miles. did notice a difference. the premix was a huge help...
the next 5 gal jug of rp will be 10 w 40.
beers
the next 5 gal jug of rp will be 10 w 40.
beers
what did u notice? i was fully convince & ready to make the change to 5w20 redline synthetic until i read this. do u recommend something heavier? i only have 16k on my 8...
06-20-2006, 02:21 PM
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Hm I would be inclined to get this flash once the TSB hits and all but I'm just afraid of dealerships. No cat, loud exhaust, AEM CAI, TPMS light flashing all the time... I can feel some aggrevation that might come from them.
06-20-2006, 04:08 PM
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Yes mine is an AT. I am just trying to get as much info as I can before I call the dealer and take it in again. The dealership I have been dealing with has been very good to me so far. It also helps that I know one of the managers there. I am going to look through my paper work about the lemon laws and what not before I call Mazda and start pichn a fit with them about my car. Oh yea mine is only a sport.
06-20-2006, 05:40 PM
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you may have incurred damage which is beyond what can be fixed with the increased mop performance- or you may have a completly seperate issue. might not even be ping.
flash files are
2004 AT SW-N3Z1ET000
2004 MT SW-N3Z2ES000
no 2005 or later flash change as of 1 minute ago
flash files are
2004 AT SW-N3Z1ET000
2004 MT SW-N3Z2ES000
no 2005 or later flash change as of 1 minute ago