Ok here is one for you all to try and figure out. I have an 05 GT A/T. We are getting what sounds like a pinging/ rattle noise from the engine at about 3/4 throttle. It has about 6400 miles on it and has been back to the dealer and had the computer removed and sent to CA for what is suppost to be the most current flash. We got the car back and it was fine for about 1 week and started again. Before I took it in it would only make the noise in 2nd gear at 5000, 5200 rpm at WOT. Now it does a lot more often in 1st and second gear at lower and higher RPM's. The dealer says its the gas we are using. We have running Chevron Supreme. So to please the dealer ship we have switched to Shell with no change. Any one got an insite to this before I call the dealer back and take it in again??? This has really taken the fun out of this car. We have had it for 4 months now and has spent a total of 3 weeks at the dealership. Of course now it needs to go back yet again!!!! Please help!!!!!

 

The only one that I know newer than the SW-N3Z2ER000 is the SW-N3ZXE0000 that has data differences as described. Is there a part number publish somewhere? I would love to get my hand on any new flash image.

 

it is not the gas you are useing... you have a big problem.. you are going to get a new motor and a second oil cooler if you dont have one...

might find mnao in your owners manual...

beers

 

None, I use premix almost the entire 55k and engine still run strong despite the ignitions went out at 53k.

 

looks like you have the old n flashes....

it was a good one. but the k and r have replaced them... and now this one...

yes they are out there but unless you have can get to the ford or mazda tech area... no not for you...

beers

 

coils???

and 53k miles???

beers

 

Swoope In regards to what you have posted about not openly able to talk about this issue.
Someone on here has had this same issue. What helped him was replacing the cat with after-market one. Howevery living in extream heat environments will not help as you have stated the main issue is not enough oil.
Thank you.

 

What should I say to my dealer about wanting the new flash. The last time I talked to them, they had no idea what a flash was.

 

tell them to stop using the wds update cd's as coffee coasters and to install them and update your car.

 

I have been having this problem and just talk to the dealer and they said they just recieved 4 docs on the power loss problem. Mine goes in today for a new flash.

 

Does anyone have a copy of the TSB for the new flash?

 

no he is quoting the R flash file name and one additional file name that is either subsequent or concurrent. i looked myself and still ther eis no "T"(

please everyone understand that these file names and numbers adn the letter T refrer to 2004 file names. 2005 cars would have adifferent file name

CALIBRATION INFORMATION

2004 A/T N3Z1-18-881S SW-N3Z1ES000 All
2004 M/T N3Z2-18-881R SW-N3Z2ER000 All
2005 A/T N3K6-18-881F SW-N3K6EF000 Fed/Canada
2005 M/T N3K7-18-881E SW-N3K7EE000 Fed/Canada
2005 A/T N3K8-18-881F SW-N3K8EF000 California
2005 M/T N3K9-18-881E SW-N3K9EE000 California

the lettter after teh "E" is the flash level. MT cars would most likely skip a letter so as to be on the same level again as their AT counter parts but they dont have to. so the MTs would move to S/T or F/G and the AT would move to T or G


cpo32- where do you live?

Aeseras- they arent using the WDS now. there is no longer an update disc. well at least they shouldnt be. by now all should have moved to the newer machine . but its the same idea- they should know how to get updates.

droger ther have not been 4 new documents released. id love for you to get the numbers on the docs they are talking about. it might be fun to expose the incompetence

delrmx01 it is not out yet that i have been able to find. had trouble getting to llok yesterday tho.. hag on ill post it as soon as one comes available

 

^^Awesome ---thanks Zoom !!!

 

on pre mix questions---if you go over 1/2oz per gal then you can get into lowering the octane in your gas etc. DO NOT USE ANY CASTOR BASED PREMIX--it will mess your cat. Use syn only and a high grade one at that. No smell no smoke no increase in ash, no spark plug fouling, no problems. even with the new flash i am still going to be using pre mix til i learn otherwise. I feel that any car(not 2 stoke motorcycles etc) made with a suppliment oil injector to the combustion chamber will next some pre mix if the car is driven in any other manner than Normal daily driving. It doesnt hurt anything and it sure can help.
olddragger

 

Ok swoop, I have a cooler behind each fog lamp, I am assuming those are the oil coolers. The dealer said if the gas didnt make a difference then they wanted to try one more thing. If that doesnt work then they said its a new engine. I dont think I am going to let it get that far. I have filed a complaint with Mazda of North America. If they say I need a new engine then I am going to push for a new car. This is crazy!!! I have never had this many problems with a new car!!! When I worked for Chevy we had the cold start knocks with the trucks but that was a carbon bulid up on the pistons. Any idea what the cause of the noise is that I am haveing. Oh yea one other question, do these cars have a knock sensor? THanks

 

do you have an AT? yes they have a knock sensor

 

You also have to realize they do not treat our cars like piston engine cars when it comes to internal engine work. If a piston engine has a problem, they break it down and fix what is broken, our cars they just yank the engine and put a new one in, much easier, and that way you don't have "part changers" taking apart these unique engines.

 

Swoope, I really hope this fixes your problem.

 

I do realize these engines are not like piston engines. I am a mechanic, but not trained with the rotary. I just cant belive that my engine with less than 7k miles needs replaced is all. It runs fine just knocks/pings when I start to get on it. It almost sounds like the timing on a piston engine when it is advaned too much.

 

do you have an AT?

 

hey swoope, what difference are u reffering to?
what did u notice? i was fully convince & ready to make the change to 5w20 redline synthetic until i read this. do u recommend something heavier? i only have 16k on my 8...

 

Zoom, I think he said on page 2 he has an AT.

 

Hm I would be inclined to get this flash once the TSB hits and all but I'm just afraid of dealerships. No cat, loud exhaust, AEM CAI, TPMS light flashing all the time... I can feel some aggrevation that might come from them.

 

Yes mine is an AT. I am just trying to get as much info as I can before I call the dealer and take it in again. The dealership I have been dealing with has been very good to me so far. It also helps that I know one of the managers there. I am going to look through my paper work about the lemon laws and what not before I call Mazda and start pichn a fit with them about my car. Oh yea mine is only a sport.

 

you may have incurred damage which is beyond what can be fixed with the increased mop performance- or you may have a completly seperate issue. might not even be ping.

flash files are
2004 AT SW-N3Z1ET000
2004 MT SW-N3Z2ES000

no 2005 or later flash change as of 1 minute ago