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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
^^ Uh, no on both counts.
The "beep" is RPM, you are just reacting more slowly.

The gluteus is not a dynamometer.
True that the beep is caused at a certain RPM range, not speed...but what exactly would cause it to beep at one speed (at 8500rpms) before...and another speed (same rpm) after?
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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Reaction time.

The gluteus is not a dynamometer.
The eye is not a high speed data acquisition device.

Remember, you only see time in 1/15 of a second slices of time at best. In a high stress environment like driving, it is really around 1/6 of a second.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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I know that it is RPM based; and I will keep a close eye on it, since I don't redline 3rd every time. I know there is some reaction time involved, but it consistantly started to beep at 78-80 before the reflash, and I generally anticipate it and shift right at the beep. I'll keep you posted MM, b/c I know you're gonna lose sleep about it.

And driving is my stress relief!
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Just hold it at the point that the beep starts, with slight throttle inputs and see what the mph is.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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got my update today and car still doing the idle search bingo game. Hope it settles out soon, car just stops rpms drop to 500 or so. Same thing it did with the R--just takes a little driving to correct.. track this w/e then we shall see.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dmc27
I know that it is RPM based; and I will keep a close eye on it, since I don't redline 3rd every time. I know there is some reaction time involved, but it consistantly started to beep at 78-80 before the reflash, and I generally anticipate it and shift right at the beep. I'll keep you posted MM, b/c I know you're gonna lose sleep about it.

And driving is my stress relief!
your trying to tell me that your car had a shift beep at 7800-8000 rpms (78-80 mph in 3rd gear)... ummm, no
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dresdie
A question about service terminology related to a PCM reflash.

"Reflashed PCM to newest update. F0008XDX and F0010XFX." A search turned up a few hits, only referring to stage I and II tuning in comparison to PCM rev levels. The best I could figure is these numbers are dealer specific part/work orders for a PCM reflash. How can I determine which flash rev it is.

Forgive my lack of mazdacity. Thanks.
see if this helps.


https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/j-k-l-m-flash-explanations-50119/

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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 01:18 AM
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Are any of the updated flashes available under warranty that comes basic for every mazda rx8 50,000 miles?

Should I mention flash updates when I go to Mazda whenever I get any service done by them or they just let me know if any updates are available when they do any inspection of my car?

Thanks!
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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all flashes are emmisions related... 80 k miles.

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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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This answer is probably posted in the 23 pages, but bare with me. This flash is supposed to inject more oil in your rotors during light cruising conditions to allow better sealing - correct? Then why are so many saying that there idle is smoothing out with or without the A/C on. I do not understand how the two are related. I have a rough idle with the A/C on and I was wondering if this could be a fix??
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jdzoom8
This answer is probably posted in the 23 pages, but bare with me. This flash is supposed to inject more oil in your rotors during light cruising conditions to allow better sealing - correct? Then why are so many saying that there idle is smoothing out with or without the A/C on. I do not understand how the two are related. I have a rough idle with the A/C on and I was wondering if this could be a fix??
Because those are part of the fix.

IT smooth out the idle by telling the engine what to do.

cracked engine mount might be the cause of your rough idle as well, you might want to check into that, its a known issue.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
I'm starting to think the new flash has restored some lost power. Specifically 3rd gear seems to have more pull now.
I noticed that 1st gear spins up noticeably faster than before. After that I can't tell due to my maniacal laughter, screaming pedestrians, etc.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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The aren't related, but the flash helps both issues
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
your trying to tell me that your car had a shift beep at 7800-8000 rpms (78-80 mph in 3rd gear)... ummm, no
Hmm. Very good point. Call me crazy, but that's what I saw. Hey!! WTF are you calling me crazy for??!!

^^ I don't know why those damn pedestrians always think they own the f8ckin sidewalks.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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When everone says that it pumps more oil into the engine, what would be considered normal oil consumption? Now I know it would have to do with driving habits, but approx. Just curious.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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I got a CEL on Tues. I had the code read, and it was P0456 I looked it up and it didn't seem to be anything to serious. I found a TSB contianing that code, which requires a re-flash so, I finally got a chance to take the car to the shop today and I told them what I had going on and told them about the rough idle and vibration. I was expecting them to do the flash but instead they told me that there was no code showing and that the rough idle was probably caused by burnt ignition coils. They put in new coils but did not do the flash, they also checked the motor mounts but they were good. I did notice it does idle a little better but would have liked to receive the new flash.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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some dealers are retarded... that actually cost mazda a lot more money than simply re-flashing. why not re-flash w/ the latest update after spending the time and money to replace the coils???
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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^That what I didn't unerstand!
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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^^cuz like u said, they're retards.

They think that they know all, well, sorry thats FAR from true.

The fact is, they know MORE than typical customers, but for people who did their homework like most of us here. sorry, I have to tell you(dealership) what to do.

I guess you might want to talk to them again saying that your engine just shut off on highway, which requires a reflash. If they still dont want to do them, F-U them and go somewhere else (if you can)
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dgrx8
some dealers are retarded... that actually cost mazda a lot more money than simply re-flashing. why not re-flash w/ the latest update after spending the time and money to replace the coils???

what if he already had code newer than the TSB he found? then the fix in the TSB has already been done to his car and flashing it would not do anything.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dgrx8
some dealers are retarded... that actually cost mazda a lot more money than simply re-flashing. why not re-flash w/ the latest update after spending the time and money to replace the coils???
its pretty easy for a tech to test if a coil is good or bad... chances are they did that test before replacing it - those idiots
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by I8U
I got a CEL on Tues. I had the code read, and it was P0456 I looked it up and it didn't seem to be anything to serious. I found a TSB contianing that code, which requires a re-flash so, I finally got a chance to take the car to the shop today and I told them what I had going on and told them about the rough idle and vibration. I was expecting them to do the flash but instead they told me that there was no code showing and that the rough idle was probably caused by burnt ignition coils. They put in new coils but did not do the flash, they also checked the motor mounts but they were good. I did notice it does idle a little better but would have liked to receive the new flash.
I think the CEL code is erased after 50 miles if another is not thrown. I know for GC8s that was the case...
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by r0tor
its pretty easy for a tech to test if a coil is good or bad... chances are they did that test before replacing it - those idiots

not if they follow the shop manual..

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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
not if they follow the shop manual..

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not the newest shop manual
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Is a TSB comming out on this?

Still not available yet.
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