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Old 06-16-2004, 05:27 PM
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well i was at the dealership today getting a new clutch installed, the new flash, and an oilchange, and i asked the guy if they have had ANY engines blow yet...he said yea one....he pointed in the back at a black 8, he told me that the guy ran the car for 7500 miles without putting any engine oil in it.. and he also claimed the oil light never came on!!! i think he was full of ****, but has anyone else heard of the renisis going out?
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other than human error like that, no i havent heard anything
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I think there has been 6 or 7 posted here about engine failure and a complete replacement. Lots of psoting about it. Should be able to find somethign with the search.
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Krayzie8, I saw that same car, and the dealership that delivered it to him, failed to go over the proper operation of a rotary. The owner did not know that they needed to check the oil - sad story - first rotary they owned.
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Re: engine failure

Originally posted by Krayzie8
well i was at the dealership today getting a new clutch installed, the new flash, and an oilchange, and i asked the guy if they have had ANY engines blow yet...he said yea one....he pointed in the back at a black 8, he told me that the guy ran the car for 7500 miles without putting any engine oil in it.. and he also claimed the oil light never came on!!! i think he was full of ****, but has anyone else heard of the renisis going out?
I can testify to the part about the oil light never coming on. I just took my car to the dealer for this precise problem. I checked my oil last weekend and discovered no oil on the dipstick and the light never came on! So after putting oil in it I called the dealer...

Right after I got the car I was having a problem with the oil light coming on even though it wasn't low. There was a tsb for this so I had the dealer fix it. I wonder now if they fixed by just preventing the light from ever coming on at all
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Originally posted by Nemesis8
Krayzie8, I saw that same car, and the dealership that delivered it to him, failed to go over the proper operation of a rotary. The owner did not know that they needed to check the oil - sad story - first rotary they owned.



Sad story? No I'm sorry to say that this is just plain ignorance! I don't feel sorry for an owner thats too lazy to read his owners manuel. Though the dealer failed to properly deliver the vehicle, that still doesn't exclude the owner from being at fault and not reading up on the vehicles operation. People need to stop blaming others for their own ignorance. Everything they needed to know is in that manuel.
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Originally posted by T-von
Sad story? No I'm sorry to say that this is just plain ignorance! I don't feel sorry for an owner thats too lazy to read his owners manuel. Though the dealer failed to properly deliver the vehicle, that still doesn't exclude the owner from being at fault and not reading up on the vehicles operation. People need to stop blaming others for their own ignorance. Everything they needed to know is in that manuel.
Indeed but there should be a warning device when the level goes below a given threshold. There is one on my wifes car that's not supposed to get its oil checked so frequently. The technology involved is available and cheap.

Knowing the 'system' is not fool proof, I'll check my oil level right away. I'm back in a minute or two...

EDIT : level was at minimum on dipstick, and of course no light!

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ok, you got to see it from this guys point of view too, i mean you just bought a 25-35k car, and no one tells you it eats oil, and the engine goes out, you would want a replacement too, now if it goes out again, then its just because hes to lazy...

but he should of still had 2 oil changes by then!!!
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T-von, what I meant it was a sad story for the car, not the idiot who did not read his manual. Do you live close to Houston? I have a brother down there somewhere.
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Originally posted by Krayzie8

but he should of still had 2 oil changes by then!!!
True in USA. But in Europe, oil changes are every 20,000 km.
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Originally posted by Krayzie8
ok, you got to see it from this guys point of view too, i mean you just bought a 25-35k car, and no one tells you it eats oil, and the engine goes out, you would want a replacement too, now if it goes out again, then its just because hes to lazy...

but he should of still had 2 oil changes by then!!!


This guy has no point of view. He bought a product that came with operational instructions and he didn't read them. This is something I always do when I buy a product that I'm not to familiar with. It doesn't matter what the guy paid for the car or how he got it. What if he was like that guy that won his 8 off of Fear Factor? Do you think those guys know anything about the engine in the car they just gave away? His guys is an idiot ......period, point blank, end of storey.
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Originally posted by Nemesis8
T-von, what I meant it was a sad story for the car, not the idiot who did not read his manual. Do you live close to Houston? I have a brother down there somewhere.


No I live in Midland (west Texas)but I did buy my Fd from Houston. :D
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I had the experience of buying a new 8 and when I checked the oil at the first fill-up I saw that there was no oil on the dipstick... No light came on, the dealer said "no problem - even tho the dipstick was dry there is still 3 litres (quarts) in the system." BUt he seemed to ignore that NO LIGHT CAME ON!!

In my Fb on hard corners the light would come on when the oil was low...
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Originally posted by IKnowNot'ing
True in USA. But in Europe, oil changes are every 20,000 km.
Nope, not true in USA. Per schedule 1 page 8-4 of the manual, first oil change is recommended at 7500 miles.

Most of the cars I know about are up to 7500 miles between oil changes now days. Exception that I know about is BMW, they have an oil monitor that tells you when to get your oil changed. My boss (740IL) and co-worker (330Ci ?) get around 12-15K miles between oil changes, or about 1 per year. Of course, its a $300 visit to the dealer when they do get it changed :D
(more than just the oil gets checked/changed...and they get a nice BMW rental car for the day!...ask your Mazda dealer if he'll give you a RX-8 for your next service visit )
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Originally posted by Genom
I think there has been 6 or 7 posted here about engine failure and a complete replacement. Lots of psoting about it. Should be able to find somethign with the search.
I've counted 12. There might be more since I haven't been on this forum for a long time. See https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ine#post242814 for first ten.

The last two were these guys:
Topgun: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=23620 https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...e&pagenumber=3)
franksrx8: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=26489
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When is the low level light suppose to lit then ? I did not find that info in the workshop manual.
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