dearly departed 13b..pics
03-28-2008, 05:21 PM
#1
bi polar rotor loner
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dearly departed 13b..pics
my rene took her last rev 2 weeks ago. I'm in a situation that I would have no choice but to go to court.
and this is how the story goes....
I bought my 8 from this dealership http://www.universalautoonline.com/default.asp
http://www.autotrader.com/dealer/dde...ed#vehicle_inv
I shopped on-line and found the 8 I was looking for. To make a long story short as I have a horrible track record on rambling, she had 77k when I signed the paperwork. the dealership sold me a 3 year/36k extended warranty by a company called wynns.
The adjuster from wynns stopped by and totally blew me off about the modifications on the car. I told him I bought the car the way it sits from the dealership. He wasn't having it. my 8 has a full ms body kit, ms front & rear strut tower bars, had a borla cat back, and 18" hp evo rims. I bought her with these mods on it.
So, who's the crook here? at signing I payed $1995.00 for the warranty.
I know that small claims top pay out is $2500.00. That is not gonna cut it. So should I hire a lawyer and take the dealership to court? Or should I just say the hell with it, take the L and build her myself.
like I said I could add on and on so I will end this rant with pics....any opinions will be appreciated.
and this is how the story goes....
I bought my 8 from this dealership http://www.universalautoonline.com/default.asp
http://www.autotrader.com/dealer/dde...ed#vehicle_inv
I shopped on-line and found the 8 I was looking for. To make a long story short as I have a horrible track record on rambling, she had 77k when I signed the paperwork. the dealership sold me a 3 year/36k extended warranty by a company called wynns.
The adjuster from wynns stopped by and totally blew me off about the modifications on the car. I told him I bought the car the way it sits from the dealership. He wasn't having it. my 8 has a full ms body kit, ms front & rear strut tower bars, had a borla cat back, and 18" hp evo rims. I bought her with these mods on it.
So, who's the crook here? at signing I payed $1995.00 for the warranty.
I know that small claims top pay out is $2500.00. That is not gonna cut it. So should I hire a lawyer and take the dealership to court? Or should I just say the hell with it, take the L and build her myself.
like I said I could add on and on so I will end this rant with pics....any opinions will be appreciated.
03-28-2008, 05:53 PM
#9
bi polar rotor loner
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it's not the original as I noticed on the front cover. "mazda reman" tag on it.
my uncles friend of a friend pulled her out at his shop since I don't have a garage anymore. (I sold my house)
I seen rene this morning when I took the pics. I don't know the culprit as of yet, but I tell ya what, judging by the condition of the rotor it doesn't look good.
The last days she was running I was getting misfires on the cylinder 2 and lean conditions on cylinder 1........then again I had stuck intake runner codes most likely apv giving me the shaft. I don't know paul. I will get back to ya when I do.
the funny thing is I'm not bummed at all. LOL maybe it's the meds. I'm bi-polar.LOL
my uncles friend of a friend pulled her out at his shop since I don't have a garage anymore. (I sold my house)
I seen rene this morning when I took the pics. I don't know the culprit as of yet, but I tell ya what, judging by the condition of the rotor it doesn't look good.
The last days she was running I was getting misfires on the cylinder 2 and lean conditions on cylinder 1........then again I had stuck intake runner codes most likely apv giving me the shaft. I don't know paul. I will get back to ya when I do.
the funny thing is I'm not bummed at all. LOL maybe it's the meds. I'm bi-polar.LOL
03-28-2008, 05:58 PM
#10
bi polar rotor loner
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03-28-2008, 06:01 PM
#12
bi polar rotor loner
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interesting right charles? in the past I was used to losing rear rotor's on my 7's from lean conditions/ poor tuning, but this is my first time ever losing a front rotor on a stock set up.
03-28-2008, 06:03 PM
#13
bi polar rotor loner
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I see what your saying. it looks like shes been violated/ported.......I gotta run. I'll be back in a ny minute.
03-28-2008, 06:10 PM
#15
We need some better pics of those ports if possible. One of the statements I've made before on this forum is there's more to porting a renesis than meets the eye and those who don't know what they're doing will cause catastophic failure.
I'd like a better view before I jump to that though.
Paul.
I'd like a better view before I jump to that though.
Paul.
03-28-2008, 06:10 PM
#16
GoSpoddyGo!!!
hi
i can see what looks like grooves, and what seems to be an apex seal missing.
i am amazed at how 'clean' the engine looks inside for that mileage on a rotary.
never seen inside a taken apart rotary in that detail.
i also am amazed at how it costs so much to rebuild an engine that has so little moving parts, surely the warranty company can recondition this engine?
do the rotors cost a lot? especially the apex seals, i thought they were spring loaded and just need new springs and a seal?
if the grooving is because of the broken seal then i suppose new side housings are needed and a new engine would be better.
i think you should first go back to the dealership if not already and let them talk to the warranty people. as they sold you the car and should be using a company for warranties that will fix your engine. let them do the talking.
i hate it when you pay for a warranty that ends up being a well we won't do this or that. what the heck is the warranty for then? what has the body kit got to do with it? does it cause you to jump to warp speeds which wears out rotaries???
i am abit like yourself in that i bought my 8 from a non mazda dealership and got a years warranty which is with the peugeot company as it was a citroen dealership i got my car from, well their used section.
anyway the salesman put me onto their silver warranty level, as he said the car would be too expensive if anything went wrong. i did ask does it cover the engine gearbox etc, he said yes everything except audio equipment. my 8 also had a moto something stainless steel cat back exhaust, but no bodykit. the thing is i bought it like that, so its up to the dealership to sort this with the wynns people as you paid enough for the extended warranty on good faith.
grrrrrr warranties, i hate it when things like this happen. let me know how you get on, and i hope it gets sorted for ya.
i can see what looks like grooves, and what seems to be an apex seal missing.
i am amazed at how 'clean' the engine looks inside for that mileage on a rotary.
never seen inside a taken apart rotary in that detail.
i also am amazed at how it costs so much to rebuild an engine that has so little moving parts, surely the warranty company can recondition this engine?
do the rotors cost a lot? especially the apex seals, i thought they were spring loaded and just need new springs and a seal?
if the grooving is because of the broken seal then i suppose new side housings are needed and a new engine would be better.
i think you should first go back to the dealership if not already and let them talk to the warranty people. as they sold you the car and should be using a company for warranties that will fix your engine. let them do the talking.
i hate it when you pay for a warranty that ends up being a well we won't do this or that. what the heck is the warranty for then? what has the body kit got to do with it? does it cause you to jump to warp speeds which wears out rotaries???
i am abit like yourself in that i bought my 8 from a non mazda dealership and got a years warranty which is with the peugeot company as it was a citroen dealership i got my car from, well their used section.
anyway the salesman put me onto their silver warranty level, as he said the car would be too expensive if anything went wrong. i did ask does it cover the engine gearbox etc, he said yes everything except audio equipment. my 8 also had a moto something stainless steel cat back exhaust, but no bodykit. the thing is i bought it like that, so its up to the dealership to sort this with the wynns people as you paid enough for the extended warranty on good faith.
grrrrrr warranties, i hate it when things like this happen. let me know how you get on, and i hope it gets sorted for ya.
03-28-2008, 06:13 PM
#17
Okay, G, you see it. That Renny has been bridgeported and the side seals lost their support. That's my diagnosis, anyway, and a huge theory of Rotarygod's(and probably Rick Engman's as well) has been proven. The irony? I was JUST telling an east coast guy about all this when his "rotary experienced" buddy was theorizing on bridge-porting a Renesis. Just another proof that a good rotary mechanic doesn't necessarily mean a good Renesis mechanic.
Paul.
03-28-2008, 06:18 PM
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Oh yeah... it's uhh... trashed for sure 
BTW - Paul, how have you been? Still hanging out with Holly and the rest of the (old school) Atlanta crowd? I've still got my RX... still only 60k miles
BTW - Paul, how have you been? Still hanging out with Holly and the rest of the (old school) Atlanta crowd? I've still got my RX... still only 60k miles
03-28-2008, 06:36 PM
#21
Yep, I'm here for the long haul, God willing. Stop by some time.
Back to the thread: The ports look stock, best I can tell from the pics. There's a lot of signs of fragmentation possibly even from side seals breakage. I'd like to see some good pics of the apexes of the rotor if possible.
Paul.
03-28-2008, 06:39 PM
#22
I'm not sure about the policies of your warranty company but most don't want you taking the engine apart yourself (Outside of a designated shop of thgeir choice).
Paul.
Paul.
03-28-2008, 07:07 PM
#23
bi polar rotor loner
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WERD. thats why I had a shop do it instead. I dislike people touching my rotors though. I will take some better pics with the wifes camera on monday. I'm really curious now.
03-28-2008, 07:15 PM
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03-28-2008, 07:21 PM
#25
bi polar rotor loner
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hi
i can see what looks like grooves, and what seems to be an apex seal missing.
i am amazed at how 'clean' the engine looks inside for that mileage on a rotary.
never seen inside a taken apart rotary in that detail.
i also am amazed at how it costs so much to rebuild an engine that has so little moving parts, surely the warranty company can recondition this engine?
do the rotors cost a lot? especially the apex seals, i thought they were spring loaded and just need new springs and a seal?
if the grooving is because of the broken seal then i suppose new side housings are needed and a new engine would be better.
i think you should first go back to the dealership if not already and let them talk to the warranty people. as they sold you the car and should be using a company for warranties that will fix your engine. let them do the talking.
i hate it when you pay for a warranty that ends up being a well we won't do this or that. what the heck is the warranty for then? what has the body kit got to do with it? does it cause you to jump to warp speeds which wears out rotaries???
i am abit like yourself in that i bought my 8 from a non mazda dealership and got a years warranty which is with the peugeot company as it was a citroen dealership i got my car from, well their used section.
anyway the salesman put me onto their silver warranty level, as he said the car would be too expensive if anything went wrong. i did ask does it cover the engine gearbox etc, he said yes everything except audio equipment. my 8 also had a moto something stainless steel cat back exhaust, but no bodykit. the thing is i bought it like that, so its up to the dealership to sort this with the wynns people as you paid enough for the extended warranty on good faith.
grrrrrr warranties, i hate it when things like this happen. let me know how you get on, and i hope it gets sorted for ya.
i can see what looks like grooves, and what seems to be an apex seal missing.
i am amazed at how 'clean' the engine looks inside for that mileage on a rotary.
never seen inside a taken apart rotary in that detail.
i also am amazed at how it costs so much to rebuild an engine that has so little moving parts, surely the warranty company can recondition this engine?
do the rotors cost a lot? especially the apex seals, i thought they were spring loaded and just need new springs and a seal?
if the grooving is because of the broken seal then i suppose new side housings are needed and a new engine would be better.
i think you should first go back to the dealership if not already and let them talk to the warranty people. as they sold you the car and should be using a company for warranties that will fix your engine. let them do the talking.
i hate it when you pay for a warranty that ends up being a well we won't do this or that. what the heck is the warranty for then? what has the body kit got to do with it? does it cause you to jump to warp speeds which wears out rotaries???
i am abit like yourself in that i bought my 8 from a non mazda dealership and got a years warranty which is with the peugeot company as it was a citroen dealership i got my car from, well their used section.
anyway the salesman put me onto their silver warranty level, as he said the car would be too expensive if anything went wrong. i did ask does it cover the engine gearbox etc, he said yes everything except audio equipment. my 8 also had a moto something stainless steel cat back exhaust, but no bodykit. the thing is i bought it like that, so its up to the dealership to sort this with the wynns people as you paid enough for the extended warranty on good faith.
grrrrrr warranties, i hate it when things like this happen. let me know how you get on, and i hope it gets sorted for ya.
I seafoamed the hell out if her before I did a compression test. I never seen seafoam do an enema like this.
to bad I had zero psi on rotor 1. rotor 2 had good compression. like I said before it's usually the opposite on my past dealings with wankel.