Code P-0661 Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Control Low Bank 1a
02-05-2013, 05:52 AM
#26
rev it up
I keep getting this code recently. The majority of my valves are disconnected by the tuner due to the supercharger.
It seems to appear when I start the car after it has warmed up. when driving from a cold start it generally does not come on.
Generally the car drives fine and reuns really well at the higher rpm. Idle can be lumpy some times however good 90% of the time.
I have also noticed a odd crackling sound coming from the throttle body which is intermittent.
It seems to appear when I start the car after it has warmed up. when driving from a cold start it generally does not come on.
Generally the car drives fine and reuns really well at the higher rpm. Idle can be lumpy some times however good 90% of the time.
I have also noticed a odd crackling sound coming from the throttle body which is intermittent.
04-11-2013, 01:44 PM
#27
Aging Cold Warrior
CEL caused by bad solenoid
I have the new solenoid but have yet to put it in because I am not having any issues with performance, except for the CEL. my 8 still runs the way it always has. I am not getting any power loss, rough idling or flooding issues. Since I found the better way to search I have gone from finding 3 threads on the subject to 25 threads. at first I thought I was bound to find a definitive answer in one of them. what I have found is that most threads end when people find there fix but they seldom log back in to let people know if they work. I have checked all my connections and yet my code keeps clearing itself for a few days and then comes back. I'm thinking it could be a chafed or partially cut wire in the harness. as long as my 8 is still running fine I will wait till I have warmer weather to start taking it apart. I will post what ever I find
04-11-2013, 05:29 PM
#28
Grey Boy
Thread Starter
Personally my CEL comes and goes with the same code periodically, and with no other symptoms like rough idling. I did notice, yesterday, that my auxiliary port in the center consol has no power. Don’t know how long it's been out or if it has anything to do with the CEL and code. I don't really think so but who knows at this point. I still have no operational symptoms so I have yet to installed the new soleniod.
Glad things worked out for you.
Last edited by titaneum_grey; 04-11-2013 at 05:31 PM.
04-13-2013, 07:03 PM
#29
Aging Cold Warrior
That’s great!
Personally my CEL comes and goes with the same code periodically, and with no other symptoms like rough idling. I did notice, yesterday, that my auxiliary port in the center consol has no power. Don’t know how long it's been out or if it has anything to do with the CEL and code. I don't really think so but who knows at this point. I still have no operational symptoms so I have yet to installed the new soleniod.
Glad things worked out for you.
Personally my CEL comes and goes with the same code periodically, and with no other symptoms like rough idling. I did notice, yesterday, that my auxiliary port in the center consol has no power. Don’t know how long it's been out or if it has anything to do with the CEL and code. I don't really think so but who knows at this point. I still have no operational symptoms so I have yet to installed the new soleniod.
Glad things worked out for you.
All the best
04-13-2013, 07:54 PM
#30
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
Gentlemen,
There is a bunch of wrong data in this thread. You're right, P0661 refers to the solenoids, but they are not rotor specific. the banks are solenoid specific. One is for your SSV, one is for your VDI, and one is for your air pump.
And the only attachment in the thread that illustrates it is a thumbnail, WTF?
Your SSV opens with your secondary injectors. The VDI is an air resonance thing that kicks in way up around 7000. Air pump only fires on cold startup.
There ya have it. Nothing to do with rotors.
I suspect somewhere in the numerous posts that were pruned from this threat that these details were alluded to in one fashion or another.
Please try to be a little more responsible about what you post. Frothy / milky substance on dipstick TSB has absolutely nothing to do with your solenoids. It's primarily a vacuum routing change for a completely different set of vacuum lines.
There is a bunch of wrong data in this thread. You're right, P0661 refers to the solenoids, but they are not rotor specific. the banks are solenoid specific. One is for your SSV, one is for your VDI, and one is for your air pump.
And the only attachment in the thread that illustrates it is a thumbnail, WTF?
Your SSV opens with your secondary injectors. The VDI is an air resonance thing that kicks in way up around 7000. Air pump only fires on cold startup.
There ya have it. Nothing to do with rotors.
I suspect somewhere in the numerous posts that were pruned from this threat that these details were alluded to in one fashion or another.
Please try to be a little more responsible about what you post. Frothy / milky substance on dipstick TSB has absolutely nothing to do with your solenoids. It's primarily a vacuum routing change for a completely different set of vacuum lines.
Last edited by ShellDude; 04-13-2013 at 07:57 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Nuke It (11-26-2018)
04-14-2013, 04:16 PM
#31
Grey Boy
Thread Starter
Gentlemen,
There is a bunch of wrong data in this thread. You're right, P0661 refers to the solenoids, but they are not rotor specific. the banks are solenoid specific. One is for your SSV, one is for your VDI, and one is for your air pump.
And the only attachment in the thread that illustrates it is a thumbnail, WTF?
Your SSV opens with your secondary injectors. The VDI is an air resonance thing that kicks in way up around 7000. Air pump only fires on cold startup.
There ya have it. Nothing to do with rotors.
I suspect somewhere in the numerous posts that were pruned from this threat that these details were alluded to in one fashion or another.
Please try to be a little more responsible about what you post. Frothy / milky substance on dipstick TSB has absolutely nothing to do with your solenoids. It's primarily a vacuum routing change for a completely different set of vacuum lines.
There is a bunch of wrong data in this thread. You're right, P0661 refers to the solenoids, but they are not rotor specific. the banks are solenoid specific. One is for your SSV, one is for your VDI, and one is for your air pump.
And the only attachment in the thread that illustrates it is a thumbnail, WTF?
Your SSV opens with your secondary injectors. The VDI is an air resonance thing that kicks in way up around 7000. Air pump only fires on cold startup.
There ya have it. Nothing to do with rotors.
I suspect somewhere in the numerous posts that were pruned from this threat that these details were alluded to in one fashion or another.
Please try to be a little more responsible about what you post. Frothy / milky substance on dipstick TSB has absolutely nothing to do with your solenoids. It's primarily a vacuum routing change for a completely different set of vacuum lines.
this makes much more sense, as the boost of power at high RPMs is not consistent in my 8.
Last edited by titaneum_grey; 04-14-2013 at 04:24 PM.
04-14-2013, 08:04 PM
#33
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
It's because you refused to do a simple task such as research real root cause. It took me 20 seconds to find the full image diagram. Someone even posted early on the actual mazda code description but you ignored it to it seems.
04-15-2013, 07:30 AM
#34
That was your first mistake. Hopefully you've learned from it.
It's because you refused to do a simple task such as research real root cause. It took me 20 seconds to find the full image diagram. Someone even posted early on the actual mazda code description but you ignored it to it seems.
It's because you refused to do a simple task such as research real root cause. It took me 20 seconds to find the full image diagram. Someone even posted early on the actual mazda code description but you ignored it to it seems.
but his ego ... grr
04-15-2013, 10:50 AM
#35
Grey Boy
Thread Starter
You are partially correct in the reason nycgps began bashing my threads; it was actually on the preceding thread which was eventually deleted because he harassed every one who posted on it. However, I had spent hours researching the code, and I came up with nothing helpful. It wasn’t that I wasn’t making the effort. I was doing it wrong. But he didn’t allude to that fact so I had no clue and could not understand why he kept flaming every post. Finally I just considered him an *** and tried to ignore is posts because I recognized that he never offered any help,,, just BS and criticism. It was not until deep into this thread, and continuing to try to research that I stumbled upon the post that tells us how to search this site correctly. I also ,then, found the diagram you posted above. you will find it earlier in this thread. There were so many posts I still haven’t gotten through them all. I still haven’t found what I am looking for, and to tell you the truth, his repeated harassment stopped me from bothering with this site anymore. I log in only when I get a reply to this post. The posts a moderator removed were all his. I never claimed or deleted any claim to have a complete solution or resolution. Otherwise I wouldn’t still be looking. I posted info I have found and hope it helps some one else, that’s all. I have no problem with being wrong and welcome correction and new information. The goal was the solution. I never got there. Most people report having idling problems with this code and replacing the solenoid seems to have worked. I don’t notice the same problems so I haven’t installed it yet. Your info helps and sends me in a new direction. Not saying its not already out there. Maybe I mist it or maybe I just never found it. Anyways, thanks for taking the time to post it.
Last edited by titaneum_grey; 04-15-2013 at 10:55 AM. Reason: spelling
04-15-2013, 12:26 PM
#36
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
Sorry dude, I don't do "wall of text" posts. I had to stop somewhere around line 3 because my brain was starting to spasm.
You really should reconsider your stance on nycgps. He's one of our most respected members and does a lot to help out his rotary brothers.
Like any other brotherhood he does set a bar for entry.
You really should reconsider your stance on nycgps. He's one of our most respected members and does a lot to help out his rotary brothers.
Like any other brotherhood he does set a bar for entry.
04-15-2013, 01:13 PM
#37
Grey Boy
Thread Starter
Sorry dude, I don't do "wall of text" posts. I had to stop somewhere around line 3 because my brain was starting to spasm.
You really should reconsider your stance on nycgps. He's one of our most respected members and does a lot to help out his rotary brothers.
Like any other brotherhood he does set a bar for entry.
You really should reconsider your stance on nycgps. He's one of our most respected members and does a lot to help out his rotary brothers.
Like any other brotherhood he does set a bar for entry.
He and I have gone at it since he flamed me with his first post, but mostly because he flamed any others who posted on that thread. His posts are all I have to view him with and they are no help and all flame. When he gives me something else to consider him with I will gladly do so. However, I don't think it is My opinion of him that is the problem.
Sorry for the "wall" I try to be through.
I have corrected this threads opening post to reflect the info you offered.
Thanks again.
Last edited by titaneum_grey; 04-15-2013 at 01:21 PM. Reason: opps, lol
04-15-2013, 01:23 PM
#38
weeeeeeeeee
iTrader: (12)
You've got it backwards... he owes you nothing. On the other hand as an inactive, typically non contributing, member the owness is on you to distinguish yourself from the sheep.
Something that this thread certainly didn't reflect when I stumbled upon it the other day.
Something that this thread certainly didn't reflect when I stumbled upon it the other day.
04-15-2013, 01:37 PM
#39
Registered
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 16,684
Likes: 0
Received 240 Likes
on
110 Posts
I don't see any objection to how the OP has handled this thread, as he hasn't been asking to be spoon fed and has been respectful. Once pointed to the best search method, he took everything in hand, found a solution, and followed up in his thread posting his solution. At no point has he been disrespectful or inflammatory. He is even responding to the harsher side of existing members a fair bit more calmly than most do, and more calmly than most of the people targeting him would.
It appears that the people that have a problem with him only have a problem with the fact that he is at the beginning of his self education. You can choose to either assist that, ignore him completely, or slam him for what he doesn't yet know.
Continuing to pursue the latter will not go favorably for anyone here.
It appears that the people that have a problem with him only have a problem with the fact that he is at the beginning of his self education. You can choose to either assist that, ignore him completely, or slam him for what he doesn't yet know.
Continuing to pursue the latter will not go favorably for anyone here.
07-09-2013, 10:43 PM
#41
Registered
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Bay Area California
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hello everyone
Will this let's say let your car overheat.
I've had this code for couple months today was 102 outside.
Driving home from work in traffic it started to overheat if the valve doesn't make the intake open or close then would this help car overheat.
On way down from little hill Heater was on full blast an coasted in neutral it went back to normal.
Then turned on the AC again and it was fine all the way home.
So will this cause that?????
Will this let's say let your car overheat.
I've had this code for couple months today was 102 outside.
Driving home from work in traffic it started to overheat if the valve doesn't make the intake open or close then would this help car overheat.
On way down from little hill Heater was on full blast an coasted in neutral it went back to normal.
Then turned on the AC again and it was fine all the way home.
So will this cause that?????
07-10-2013, 10:56 AM
#42
^^Tell me how does an intake valve not opening can cause a car to overheat. You have a bigger problem than ur valve not working, might wanna flush ur cooling system with higher distilled water content.
For the record, op didnt solve anything, when me other member told him he was wasting everyone's time, he start talking crap, obviously he was wrong and wouldnt man up afterwards, Blah
For the record, op didnt solve anything, when me other member told him he was wasting everyone's time, he start talking crap, obviously he was wrong and wouldnt man up afterwards, Blah
Last edited by nycgps; 07-10-2013 at 11:02 AM.
07-10-2013, 08:44 PM
#43
Registered
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Bay Area California
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If the valve is closed and not enough air is getting into where it needs to go no air flow will cause an overheat. Just curious if anyone else has had that problem.
It was driving up a hill with AC on in traffic then got the RPM's up to pass people and the temp was getting higher.
Once at the top turned on heaters and it cooled down then put AC back on and it was fine all the way home. That code listed here is the only code i have and my coolant was changed with a new radiator from dealer last summer and new overflow tank. only thing not changed was the thermostat. Which I have never put in yet.
I changed the top Sol valve but need to do the bottom 2.
It controls the intake valve if its closed then no air looks like to me........
It was driving up a hill with AC on in traffic then got the RPM's up to pass people and the temp was getting higher.
Once at the top turned on heaters and it cooled down then put AC back on and it was fine all the way home. That code listed here is the only code i have and my coolant was changed with a new radiator from dealer last summer and new overflow tank. only thing not changed was the thermostat. Which I have never put in yet.
I changed the top Sol valve but need to do the bottom 2.
It controls the intake valve if its closed then no air looks like to me........
07-11-2013, 05:08 AM
#44
*facepalm*
It was driving up a hill with AC on in traffic then got the RPM's up to pass people and the temp was getting higher.
Once at the top turned on heaters and it cooled down then put AC back on and it was fine all the way home. That code listed here is the only code i have and my coolant was changed with a new radiator from dealer last summer and new overflow tank. only thing not changed was the thermostat. Which I have never put in yet.
I changed the top Sol valve but need to do the bottom 2.
It controls the intake valve if its closed then no air looks like to me........
Once at the top turned on heaters and it cooled down then put AC back on and it was fine all the way home. That code listed here is the only code i have and my coolant was changed with a new radiator from dealer last summer and new overflow tank. only thing not changed was the thermostat. Which I have never put in yet.
I changed the top Sol valve but need to do the bottom 2.
It controls the intake valve if its closed then no air looks like to me........
07-11-2013, 06:58 PM
#45
Registered
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Bay Area California
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
All I have been doing is studying my car.
The overheat only happened one Time before going up hill when it's hot Lake Tahoe .
The next Time was that a couple days ago.
It was only 2 times in a year.
It has been fine ever since with AC on and everything. That's why I asked on this thread since its the only code I have. Was thinking about thermostat next it's original????
The overheat only happened one Time before going up hill when it's hot Lake Tahoe .
The next Time was that a couple days ago.
It was only 2 times in a year.
It has been fine ever since with AC on and everything. That's why I asked on this thread since its the only code I have. Was thinking about thermostat next it's original????
08-07-2013, 09:37 AM
#47
Grey Boy
Thread Starter
^^Tell me how does an intake valve not opening can cause a car to overheat. You have a bigger problem than ur valve not working, might wanna flush ur cooling system with higher distilled water content.
For the record, op didnt solve anything, when me other member told him he was wasting everyone's time, he start talking crap, obviously he was wrong and wouldnt man up afterwards, Blah
For the record, op didnt solve anything, when me other member told him he was wasting everyone's time, he start talking crap, obviously he was wrong and wouldnt man up afterwards, Blah
08-07-2013, 09:38 AM
#48
Grey Boy
Thread Starter
Finally got around to doing the wrench work and installed the solenoid. reset all codes after and waiting to see if they come back.
Last edited by titaneum_grey; 08-07-2013 at 09:39 AM. Reason: spelling
08-07-2013, 11:40 AM
#49
Rotary Evolution
just replace the solenoid, i have been seeing them fail quite a lot recently.
they only fail when you test then with the engine/solenoid fully warmed up, if you test it while the engine is cool it will likely pass but barely leaving you thinking it is a simple wiring issue which it isn't.
the part is about $125 and usually is in stock at your local dealer.
they only fail when you test then with the engine/solenoid fully warmed up, if you test it while the engine is cool it will likely pass but barely leaving you thinking it is a simple wiring issue which it isn't.
the part is about $125 and usually is in stock at your local dealer.