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Greenblurr93 03-20-2008 11:42 AM

good to hear its working out. Waiting on Pics and vids!

Phil's 8 03-20-2008 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by rotorocks (Post 2359517)
With all the findings, I ended up taking some shortcuts here and there. I know, it is not the best way of doing things, and it may or may not work, but it is my car, my money and thus my decision. Whether it pays off in the future or, I end up shooting myself in the foot is yet unknown. I'll keep this info to myself for now. When it comes to BHR, however I will say this: Black Halo Racing stood by and followed through on every single promice that was made and a whole lot more in addition to it. Ray is the man! He is totally dedicated, competent, extremely knowledgeable, bright, flexible, attention oriented, hard working man, and a great friend. Believe it when I say this: CRH's heart is the biggest and kindest blood pumping device you'll ever encounter in your life. I feel privileged to be able to call him my friend!!!

Ray, you hear that? My kids now miss you, and Nina dropped a few tears yesterday because of you. ..asshole :lol: There is just no saying how much i am thankful for everything you did.

There is a ton of pics and video material to be posted, and I will do so, as I get to it, so stay put.

OK Ray, how much did that plug cost you?:lol: :) Ether you sent someone else or you paid him to be nice to you.:)

rotorocks 03-20-2008 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by chickenwafer (Post 2351820)
Hmmmm:



Using a cherry picker, how lame :lol: What happened to pulling it by hand Ogre style??

Sorry about the housing, that really blows.

Hell no! Forget that, there is no way to take that thing out by hand. I could probably (Although, I haven't done so) lift the motor off the ground while squatting down to it and, but taking it out of the car? no way! I didn't even attempt.

Guess Orge title will forever belong to you. :lol:

Greenblurr93 03-20-2008 01:41 PM

What if we strapped you to the cherry picker... and you just held onto the motor for dear life as we lifted? that could count as removing the motor by hand... then you can share the "Orge" title as well..

rotorocks 03-20-2008 02:22 PM

5 Attachment(s)
Video of installing an apex seal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PmJrf1MrvY

This one ends in a humorous way. What happened was that the lower corner seal rotated slightly and the grooves came out of alignment. We had to abort the filming there :)

Here it is continued after we figured out how to fix the problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V2X-G7xir8

EDIT: Attaching Some pictures

Brettus 03-20-2008 03:06 PM

missed this thread - good work guys . Hope she settles down OK Vlad .....

rotorocks 03-20-2008 04:02 PM

Another Video: Ray is turning the rotating assembly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUmBtZz254

Brettus 03-20-2008 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by rotorocks (Post 2359982)
Another Video: Ray is turning the rotating assembly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUmBtZz254

there are a lot of Rs in that title :lol:

yeah Charles an "idiot" reference would have been classic ......

rotorocks 03-20-2008 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2360089)
I couldn't think of any "idiots" whom I wished to address. Well, maybe just one.:lol2:

There we go... A few minutes I stepped away, and the next thing I find is a bunch of "idiots" pointing fingers and calling each other an "idiot" :lol:

rotorocks 03-20-2008 05:20 PM

Another Video: me cutting a seal. It really isn't that hard as for some reason it is believed to be. Just gotta take it slow, and be extra careful to maintain the angle of the cut. That is all there is to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GK8XeW3utM

In this one, I made a cut, and we are testing it for proper corner gaps.
It usually took us about 5-8 tests such as this to get it right, as the seals are about 2 mm longer than the grove as they come uncut, and once i had ttaken off the initial length and gave it the proper shape, there is just no telling. You gotta take it off very carefully, literally a half thousand's of an inch at a time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY2vcuiWoPk

rotorocks 03-20-2008 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2360118)
How did you find out about my conversations with MM?

Being an "idiot" as I am, I could just smell it... :lol2:

olddragger 03-20-2008 09:50 PM

congrats guys!
olddragger

Razz1 03-20-2008 09:58 PM

Good Luck with the tuning.

Easy_E1 03-20-2008 10:25 PM

Well glad to see another successful BHR job done well. Great job double teaming that engine guy's.
Rotorocks, didn't I hear you say you were going to drive to SSXI this year?

snipaz2420 03-28-2008 05:35 PM

any update on how the engine is running?

rotorocks 03-28-2008 05:51 PM

Yeah, sorry. Been too busy lately.
Took the car to work for the first day today.

It had some problems starting for a while, due to the fact that all seals were new, but it is getting better day by day.
at the beginning it was taking quite a bit of cranking to get it running, then as i kept on running the motor, it begin starting sooner, and sooner. now if fires right up, being cold, and may be with a couple of tries when hot, but the vacuum readings are showing 18-20, which is good, the motor runs very well, and smooth.
i still need to retune everything, as all the int-X maps I have were too lean, for some reason. i mean all of it, became extremely lean, overall. Also I have all sorts of rattles coming from the under the car when the car is rolling. Something is robbing on something, and I will jack it up over the weekend to find out what, and fix it.
I had made a video, of all the work done with photos, and vids all put together, with some kid rock music to accompany it, which is fun to watch, but the damn thing is so huge that youtube will not let me upload it.

cmr333 03-28-2008 06:05 PM

glad to see you up and running again man...i cant wait till i get to drive mine again. any chance i might see you at hin orlando?

rotorocks 03-31-2008 09:17 PM

Ok, I oficially love my car again, and this time even better than before
:lol2:
I fixed the nasty noise that was coming from the drive shaft. it was from the drive shaft coming in contact with the PPF, which in turn was pushed towards the shaft by my downpipe, which when installing in the darkness, got jammed too high up with the cross brace (which I installed the wrong way). :wallbash:
I also got read of a nasty sounding exhaust leack coming from the v-band flange on the turbo outlet by simply tightening the living shit out of it.
Boy what a difference :).

To add to all this, I tuned in the idles and now she very staby idles at just over 13 - 13.5 without AC and 14 - 15 with the AC turned on. I was never able to do it before the rebuild though, anything above 14 and the car was beginning to idle very erratically and stalling, but it works now.

The only thing left to do is to tune out the boost area, whi I had done on up to 8 PSI for the most part, except at the point where the APV opens up.

So the car gets pig rich coming close to 6-6500 and then suddenly jumps up like on steroids as the it becomes suddenly leaner. But that is not a big deal. Now that I can actually hear my engine (And it sounds soooo smooth!!! :ylsuper: ) and not the drive shaft rubbing against the frame, I can concentrate on getting it finalised.

Anyone knows where I can upload an over 2 gig video?

Jedi54 03-31-2008 09:27 PM

I'm sure someone here can host it for ya Roto. Maybe make a thread in the lounge asking someone to host?

CONGRATS on the entire rebuild, looks like you and Ray did one HELL of a job on this thing!!!
Nice that you worked out all the kinks and with a little more tuning, that beast will be ready to Roar!
You coming to SevenStock?

Nemesis8 03-31-2008 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by rotorocks (Post 2380435)
...Anyone knows where I can upload an over 2 gig video?

2GB? Sounds like a raw video capture that needs to be produced into a web friendly video file.

:rolleyes:

rotorocks 03-31-2008 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2380579)
I guess I musta screwed up somewhere in the installation of the PPF, Vlad. Sorry about that.:(

No Ray, it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with you. It has to do with the downpipe being jammed in too tight. PPF is sitting perfectly well.
I actually followed your advise tonight and jacked he up, and started turning the wheels andlistening. the problem reveled it'self right there and then. I removed the cross brace and the downpipe, pulled on the shaft cover to get it away from the shaft some, reinstalled the pipe, and the brace (in reversed position) and it took care of the issue.

rotorocks 03-31-2008 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Nemesis8 (Post 2380581)
2GB? Sounds like a raw video capture that needs to be produced into a web friendly video file.

:rolleyes:

nope, it is WMV, and I just looked, it is 190 megs.
youtube says it can allow up to 2 gig max, per video, yet they deleted the damn thing claiming it is too big :icon_bs: . I don't know.

Nemesis8 03-31-2008 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by rotorocks (Post 2380608)
nope, it is WMV, and I just looked, it is 190 megs.
youtube says it can allow up to 2 gig max, per video, yet they deleted the damn thing claiming it is too big :icon_bs: . I don't know.

They just lowered their limit to 1024MB or 1GB. At 190 megs it should have uploaded.

:dunno:

rotorocks 03-31-2008 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2380611)
So the driveshaft wasn't rubbing on the PPF but your mid-pipe was rubbing on the driveshaft.......or something like that? Whew. My credibility remains intact.:lol2:

Sorta. The pipe was pushing the heat shield (the one that is attached to the PPF) too close towards the shaft, which in turn was rubbing against the heat shield, not the pipe, which makes it technically your fault anyway. So except for this little .... :lol2: Naaahhh just kidding :) :lol2:

Yes, your credibility is 100% in tact man :)
To anyone, if ever (god forbid) your motor is in trouble BHR is the place to run for help on the matter. Not only you'll enjoy the company of Ray himself (while supplies last) but you'll learn a thing or two, and save a buck or two.
I strongly recommend utilizing CRH's expertise for your future rebuilds.

rotorocks 03-31-2008 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2380658)
... Either way, we got the engine together and it runs despite the beliefs of some who doubted us.:)

:uhh: Doubted us? Who are those mean, negative folks? :nono:

:lol2:


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