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Apparently DSC/TCS "full off" isn't full off.

Old May 2, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bse50
that's because you're me + one o.

@Ash: what were these changes about? I skid drove both 2004\2005 and 2006 and up cars... no difference.
Sorry, cant confirm exactly what software, ECU, ABS (with DCS), Dash Meter Cluster changed at that date.
Mazda don't always tell you the reasons...like this 2012 MY MX-5..

If the DSC system is malfunctioning, the DSC OFF light remains flashed.

When the DSC OFF switch is pressed to disable, the DSC OFF light illuminates

Previously if a malfunction happened DSC OFF light remained ON, did not 'flash'.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Is anyone else having page loading issues with this FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!website??

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Old May 2, 2012 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nadrealista
when I have fun on the skid pad during my track events I just press it once and it is completely off, no problem to get the car sideways or tires spinning..mine is 2004 maybe there are differences between model years?
At least with stock tires, suspension, and camber settings, it's surprising what one can get away do even with DSC fully on. As long as the wheels are more or less in sync, I can do full on 4-wheel power slides/drifts without triggering a serious intervention. Only with the tail (or presumably front, though I haven't had that happen) stepping out will it intervene. The one-push off will allow very sweet large-diameter donuts. (Don't ask me how I know )

However, with my present -2.5 deg rear and -1.8 deg front camber settings, it won't let me do 4-wheel slides anymore, since that perfect balance stock is upset. One of these days, I'll decrease the camber spread between f/r and see how the DSG likes it.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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^^ I have found that with just the first step off the car actually tries to kill you at the track.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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05 here, and between autocross, driving on ice, in blizzards, etc... I have found zero difference between one tap off and a full 7 second off. None. Both allow full rotation, full wheel spin, no throttle or brake interference at any time (including though >180 spins, on throttle and off)

And like HiFlight, I've done 4-wheel slides without it kicking in while on (surprise ice on ramps).
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Old May 2, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Yeah I have never understood the people who turn it off on the street. Our canyon runs can get pretty hairy and the DSC has saved me a couple of times and I have never had an issue keeping up with those who turn it off, even during autox.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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^ Agreed. I seldom turn it off. It kept me from a hard hit on a curb during a turn last year - wet leaves fallen onto the street from a big tree were surprisingly slippery.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
HUH...SNTP...The ABS Brakes will ALWAYS work mate...irregardless of DSC Partial Off or Full OFF.

Your brakes are brakes...why would one not want to stop in the quickest, fail safe, way?

You can't disable ABS.


Edit...Try your Hand Brake, sorry "emergency brake".
Here's the catch. I wasn't on the brakes at all!

Originally Posted by nycgps
u sure u completely disabled it ?

cuz it never happened to me.
Yes, both DSC and TCS were "off" according to the lights. Having done it in the past multiple times and for AutoX. At first I thought it was wheel hop, but no way would it feel the way it did because it just cut power and applied brakes as if both DSC and TCS were on.

Originally Posted by bse50
No, you're just doing it wrong and it's not fully off.
No. Hence the reason for the thread.





As absurd as it sounds, it was exactly how I describe it in my original post. Yes, I've had enough driving experience in my 8 to know the difference of when and how the DSC/tCS nannies kick in. I was NOT on the brakes at all, and the throttle was mashed to the floor... Nothing but applied rear brakes and understeer in 1st and it was in the wet too. E-brake was not engaged.

When I got a new battery, I didn't do the procedure to clear the DCS/TSC lights. It was driven a few times (short drives) around the neighborhood, and it decided to clear itself. So I'm wondering if that has anything to do with what is going on now.

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Old May 4, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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Just turn the wheel to one lock left or right, then the other lock to set DSC. Drive at least 10ft to set TCS, though you have to shut off and restart the car to turn the TCS back on.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 08:22 AM
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it turns off--we guys at the ga club have thousands of track miles and if it is not off--then its useless--cause nothing happens when we plow a field
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