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Old 07-14-2005, 09:07 PM
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Ditto to the hot start issue. I've always had it but it does start! So press on and drive.
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After Revi Install??

I was just going to post this but with the title "After the Revi Install Hard Starting".

Is this just because it's hot. I noticed this for the first time after I installed the Rebi and it didn't start right up like always.

Just Heat???

Did you guy's do the Revi?

I'm scheduled to get the my center console lid r&r'd and also the latest flash.
I'll report if it rectifies the situation.

Bill
Old 07-15-2005, 06:19 AM
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My car is in the shop for failure to start when hot. It dosn't seem to be a flooding issue. The de-flood routine failed to work. The car sputters sometimes but will not start. With a push start, the car fires up.
An update:
The dealer gave me my car back yesterday after a new flash and replacing the battery for the starting problem. I drove to the gas station for a fill up. I then had problems trying to restart the car. It took 5 min to get the car to start. Drove promptly back to the Dealer. Now they believe it is an internal short in the starter that only shows up when the car is hot. The present starter seems to crank fine. The new starter is to arrive today. We'll see.
Old 07-15-2005, 12:34 PM
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After coming back from service I didn't notice a hard start. Seemed normal.

In the morning first start it does start much easier.

They said they flashed it. I didn't notice my new sticker. I don't know is this is done with every flash or not. I can't tell what flash it is currently at. I'll hunt it down on the forum to see if I can find out how to tell which flash I have.

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Old 07-15-2005, 03:20 PM
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Took mine in for the 15K service and mentioned the hesitation to start when hot. They checked the charging system and said the battery was weak and ordered the new HD battery. My dealership rocks! :D
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With the M flash my 8 almost always started after about 2 or 3 cranks warm or cold. Now that I have the N flash it usually takes about 4 to 5 cranks to start the engine when warm.
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my car had always started 'instantly' , even in the 93+ ambient temps here in central FL, seems like as soon as the key turns the motor is running, up until yesterday, I parked the car at my girlfriends house, we used here car all weekend, so the car sat fridaynight, saturday/saturday night and I finaly drove my car home on sunday night. the car usualy gets driven at least for a little while every 24hrs or so. After sitting for this long, in the heat all day, it had to crank for about 3 secs, then fired right up. I let it run for about 2 mins then drove home. car ran fine. who knows. I guess it was just from sitting
Old 08-09-2005, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by maxrx8
I was just going to post this but with the title "After the Revi Install Hard Starting".

Is this just because it's hot. I noticed this for the first time after I installed the Rebi and it didn't start right up like always.

Just Heat???

Did you guy's do the Revi?

I'm scheduled to get the my center console lid r&r'd and also the latest flash.
I'll report if it rectifies the situation.

Bill
I've got the same issue. Most times start up is fine but every now and then I notice a delay and it's always after the car is warmed up. I didn't notice this as much pre-REVi, but it's also hotter now. I'll try the "initialization" theory and see if it helps any.
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They put in the new "heavy duty" battery. A weeks worth of hot weather driving and no slow starting.

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Old 08-09-2005, 04:39 PM
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what battery can i put if i want to change the stock one.for ex. how many amperes??
Old 08-09-2005, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8world
what battery can i put if i want to change the stock one.for ex. how many amperes??
You should be able to get one free from the dealer:

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...42-04-1429.pdf

The "new" battery is 640 CCA. If you complain of slow cranking or hard starting and have the small battery, the dealer SHOULD install the larger capacity model.

Some folks have replaced the OEM battery with an Optima with good results as well. You can do a search here for optima and the info should come up. I think the red top Optima that will fit is 800 cca.

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Took my '8 in today to get the brakes looked at for clicking sounds...and while I was at it, mentioned that I was still having a hard start problem even after getting flashed with whatever they flashed me with last time I was in. Shoved a TSB in their face even specifically mentioning a bigger battery and better spark plugs...I was really hoping to be able to get these things. But they gave me the round about, and in the end, ended up performing yet another flash with the "latest and most recent flash"...which I suspect is what's supposed to be used for the recall, when I haven't even received any letters yet for that? That kind of pissed me off, as I was hoping to not have any recall related stuff done until I got the letters, just to make sure they did the job right. I know the car didn't get the heat shield installed or control arms checked. I think it's pretty hard to get the battery because for them to claim warranty on it, your battery needs to fail their test.

But oh well...whatever flash they did, I must say, it does seem to be helping so far. I can now just turn the key to on, wait for the seat belt warning to beep 5 times, and then crank, and it turns over smoothly. Before that was just about a guaranteed way to get the choking hard starts...20-30 second waits were mandatory for a smooth crank, and even then it wasn't 100%.
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1st post so go easy on me
Sorry to drag up an old thread, im in the uk have a manual 192 (2004), so far ive had new battery, coils and cat replaced.
My car starts fine from cold everytime, however quite a few times when ive done say a 20 -25 min drive and the car is warmed up, ill get to the car and it turns over but doesnt want to start and sounds like its dieing...if I leave it for a min or two it will eventually reluctantly start. Im just hoping its not a sign of low compression.
The car drives great, oil is always topped up/checked regulary, I have read that earlier cars had a weak? starter motor.
Any ideas guys?
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if you still have the original have the starter checked.

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i'm having the same issues when the engine is hot, it's taken me 16 times to start the car on one occasion another time in a petrol station, my partner had to push it to the side as it wouldn't start and the battery sounded like it was going. lifted up the bonnet to let it cool down faster and 40 minutes later after stopping to fill up it finally started. This happens every single time my engine gets hot and I try to start it instantly or up to around 45 minutes after. different people on here have said and tried different things to fix it from, plugs, battery, coils, leads, upgraded starter, flashing and according to mazda the engine managment system, I have no idea how to resolve this due to different people saying different things, all i know is it can't carry on like this!!!!!! any help would be great.
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Upgrade starter, battery, coils. If that doesn't work swap engine. That's what ended up working for me under warranty.
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