Advice? Convincing Dealership to do TSBs (I searched)
04-22-2008, 02:45 PM
#27
Wow, you guys have all been awesome on this post. Thank you so much!
Now that I know a TSB isn't a recall, I feel much different. My dealership just replaced by starter, battery, plugs and PCM (to MSP16), and did it all when they saw my dead-battery car sitting in their lot Monday morning. Boom.
It seems to me (so far) that the only TSBs you REALLY need to try to watch out for before your warranty is up on an '04 are the following:
-Starter, Battery, Plugs
-PCM Flash
-Condensation in lights
Missing anything major?
Now that I know a TSB isn't a recall, I feel much different. My dealership just replaced by starter, battery, plugs and PCM (to MSP16), and did it all when they saw my dead-battery car sitting in their lot Monday morning. Boom.
It seems to me (so far) that the only TSBs you REALLY need to try to watch out for before your warranty is up on an '04 are the following:
-Starter, Battery, Plugs
-PCM Flash
-Condensation in lights
Missing anything major?
Maybe broken parking lever? I replaced mine twice, then I told them to readjust it to lower level and its fine now.
The rear combination light problem will come back ... just the matter of time.
04-23-2008, 01:04 PM
#33
Rotary Wanker
I don't have a starting problem but I complained to the dealer about hard starting on my early '05 just to get the upgraded starter. The dealer wouldn't install it because they said mine was "one of the better starting RXs they've serviced". They did install the dipstick fix though. I still have the original starter - no issues.
04-23-2008, 01:07 PM
#34
I don't have a starting problem but I complained to the dealer about hard starting on my early '05 just to get the upgraded starter. The dealer wouldn't install it because they said mine was "one of the better starting RXs they've serviced". They did install the dipstick fix though. I still have the original starter - no issues.
The updated starter is like a night & day differents.
Go to another dealer and do it.
05-16-2008, 05:09 PM
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Here's a recap of all this good information...
HAVE THESE DONE
make sure they performed MSP16
important ones like Engine No Start & Engine Lack of power should be perform even if your car never had a problem.
Maybe broken parking lever? I replaced mine twice, then I told them to readjust it to lower level and its fine now.
Make sure there's no fog in front or rear lights
Well as long as you have the old starter (it says N3H1 on top of the starter) and such just explain that you're experiencing hard starting or long starts. With the old style starter you definitely are experiencing it even if you arent aware, seriously the updated one is leaps and bounds above the old one. Also on a '04 if the plugs have never been done theres a chance that you have the old style leading plugs, which suck, and could contribute to a loss of power/hard start that again you may not even notice. I might try just asking them to inspect and make sure you have all the updated parts for your starting and ignition system as youve been experiencing intermittent problems that only driving the car everyday would be easy to be recognized. Or something along those lines, if you were in NJ I'd just say stop by me lol.
USEFUL THINGS TO SAY
Loss of power, hard starting, and CELs are pretty good starts.
Your car hesitates, hard-starts when hot, and that you understand there is a new CAMPAIGN(key industry word) that will ensure your car will not fall out of emissions-compliance. A "campaign" in an in-process update or modification that is intended to bring a given vehicle(or series of vehicles) into safety, emissions, quality, or regulatory compliance to the satisfaction of the OEM.
"My car is weird, its hard to start in both Cold & Hot, its like when the car has been sitting in my garage overnight, it takes like at least 4-5 seconds b4 it will start. Then after a long range driving, say 10 miles, stop for gas, then when I try to start it, its really hard. When im going high way speed, the sunroof is rattleing like nutz(say this if u have sunroof). When I turn my A/C on, my car shakes like crazy, and the idle is rough."
HAVE THESE DONE
make sure they performed MSP16
important ones like Engine No Start & Engine Lack of power should be perform even if your car never had a problem.
Maybe broken parking lever? I replaced mine twice, then I told them to readjust it to lower level and its fine now.
Make sure there's no fog in front or rear lights
Well as long as you have the old starter (it says N3H1 on top of the starter) and such just explain that you're experiencing hard starting or long starts. With the old style starter you definitely are experiencing it even if you arent aware, seriously the updated one is leaps and bounds above the old one. Also on a '04 if the plugs have never been done theres a chance that you have the old style leading plugs, which suck, and could contribute to a loss of power/hard start that again you may not even notice. I might try just asking them to inspect and make sure you have all the updated parts for your starting and ignition system as youve been experiencing intermittent problems that only driving the car everyday would be easy to be recognized. Or something along those lines, if you were in NJ I'd just say stop by me lol.
USEFUL THINGS TO SAY
Loss of power, hard starting, and CELs are pretty good starts.
Your car hesitates, hard-starts when hot, and that you understand there is a new CAMPAIGN(key industry word) that will ensure your car will not fall out of emissions-compliance. A "campaign" in an in-process update or modification that is intended to bring a given vehicle(or series of vehicles) into safety, emissions, quality, or regulatory compliance to the satisfaction of the OEM.
"My car is weird, its hard to start in both Cold & Hot, its like when the car has been sitting in my garage overnight, it takes like at least 4-5 seconds b4 it will start. Then after a long range driving, say 10 miles, stop for gas, then when I try to start it, its really hard. When im going high way speed, the sunroof is rattleing like nutz(say this if u have sunroof). When I turn my A/C on, my car shakes like crazy, and the idle is rough."
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