Notices
Series I Tech Garage The place to discuss anything technical about the RX-8 that doesn't fit into any of the categories below.

ac bearing starting to go? still works, makes noise

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old May 12, 2016 | 08:02 AM
  #1  
Sh00bs's Avatar
Thread Starter
RX8 nooobie
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
From: Pasadena, MD
ac bearing starting to go? still works, makes noise

so from the research ive done i think the clutch bearing in my ac compressor is starting to go. only makes noise when i turn the fan on and it's only at certain RPM's. makes a squeaking noise like the belt is worn... it's not though. people say the compressor is seized but i think if that was the case i wouldnt have ac, which i do. im thinking it's just the bearing that's starting to go? sometimes its worse than other times and at idle just makes a really annoying squeaking noise, other times it just squeaks every now and then. ideas? thoughts? just want to get some opinions before jumping into it and trying to troubleshoot myself
Reply
Old May 16, 2016 | 08:45 AM
  #2  
Sh00bs's Avatar
Thread Starter
RX8 nooobie
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
From: Pasadena, MD
bumpp, noone ?
Reply
Old May 16, 2016 | 08:49 AM
  #3  
200.mph's Avatar
FULLY SEMI AUTOMATIC
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,952
Likes: 3,418
From: BALLS DEEP
my ac pully seized up, shredded the belt and made one hell of a mess a few years ago
Reply
Old May 16, 2016 | 02:46 PM
  #4  
StealthTL's Avatar
Metatron
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 7,287
Likes: 184
From: A Pacific Island.
I'm with 200.....
If it finally seizes, the belt can flail around taking out wiring or the crank sensor.

Take it off and get a new one - or just take it to bits and replace the bearing inside.

What you waiting for? Get it done!
Reply
Old May 16, 2016 | 11:27 PM
  #5  
EDZRIDE's Avatar
2005 White GT
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 2
From: Spokane Valley, Washington
Check the bearing on the belt tensioner too.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2016 | 12:31 PM
  #6  
dubble08's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: SoCal - IE
I have a similar problem, but has to do with the drive belt. For a long time, I've been getting an awful squeal. Well now my belt busted. At first, I thought it was a bad belt, so I replaced it. Could it be the alternator bearing??? Should all the pulleys be able to spin? Sorry for lack of basic car knowledge. Still learning :/
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2016 | 01:03 PM
  #7  
dubble08's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: SoCal - IE
Also, I don't have the A/C belt on because when I was replacing that belt, bolt head busted on the tensioner. Car still squeals so I know it's coming from the alternator/water pump side.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2016 | 04:02 PM
  #8  
dannobre's Avatar
Modulated Moderator
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 13,720
Likes: 344
From: Smallville
Take the belt off and check the alternator and water pump bearings. Usually when a water pump goes they start to leak...so check and see if the weep hole is leaking coolant

They should rotate smoothly and not feel rough or bind. If you wiggle them up and don there shouldn't be any play ( make sure you use something hard like a wooden handle to push on...bearing rattle and finger rattle are hard to tell apart sometimes )

Often if the belt gets a bit old it gets stiffer and the rubber isn't flexible...and they squeak...so check that.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 03:53 PM
  #9  
dubble08's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: SoCal - IE
Originally Posted by dannobre
Take the belt off and check the alternator and water pump bearings. Usually when a water pump goes they start to leak...so check and see if the weep hole is leaking coolant

They should rotate smoothly and not feel rough or bind. If you wiggle them up and don there shouldn't be any play ( make sure you use something hard like a wooden handle to push on...bearing rattle and finger rattle are hard to tell apart sometimes )

Often if the belt gets a bit old it gets stiffer and the rubber isn't flexible...and they squeak...so check that.
I used a brand new belt and it shredded so I know it isn't the belt. My alternator pulley spins freely. Feels fine though I noticed the pulley just below it will not spin. I'll spin it, but it stops right away. Is this the water pump pulley? I don't see any leaks, but I'll look again.

Last edited by dubble08; Jun 5, 2016 at 04:07 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 04:26 PM
  #10  
dubble08's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: SoCal - IE
Doing a little research and I figured out it's the water pulley. I also noticed this pulley has a lot of rubber crud on there leading me to believe this pulley is not spinning and that the belt is riding across it. That would explain the burning smell of rubber lol. Am I heading in the right direction?
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 11:02 PM
  #11  
dannobre's Avatar
Modulated Moderator
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 13,720
Likes: 344
From: Smallville
Sounds likely Looks like you need a new water pump
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2016 | 12:38 PM
  #12  
dubble08's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: SoCal - IE
Thanks for your help dannobre! I'll be removing the pulley shortly. Let's say the bearings are bad. Could I just replace the pulley or should I just replace the entire water pump to be on the safe side???

Edit: Scratch that. I think I know the answer to that lol. I JUST did a complete coolant flush, too! Damn...

Last edited by dubble08; Jun 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2016 | 01:06 PM
  #13  
200.mph's Avatar
FULLY SEMI AUTOMATIC
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,952
Likes: 3,418
From: BALLS DEEP
the bearings are in the pump, if you need a pulley i have one
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2016 | 04:50 PM
  #14  
dubble08's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: SoCal - IE
Originally Posted by 200.mph
the bearings are in the pump, if you need a pulley i have one
Can I use the same pulley with a new pump or is it recommended I replace it?

For the record, this is what my car sound before the first and second belt broke.

Last edited by dubble08; Jun 6, 2016 at 05:06 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2016 | 07:00 PM
  #15  
dannobre's Avatar
Modulated Moderator
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 13,720
Likes: 344
From: Smallville
If the pulley is all gunked up I would get another one...should be lots in perfect condition floating around

If you were local to me I would give you a water pump and pulley...I have a brand new one off a reman lying in the garage
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2016 | 07:59 PM
  #16  
dubble08's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: SoCal - IE
You can ship it to me COD :D You would be a LIFE saver. I have no car and wifey is driving the grocery runner :\

I'm tempted to start the car without a belt JUST to make sure. I'm going to keep looking. I have to go out and buy a belt so I can remove the pulley and so I can use my stethoscope to listen for the bearings. I'll head out to Autozone tonight.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2016 | 07:19 AM
  #17  
200.mph's Avatar
FULLY SEMI AUTOMATIC
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,952
Likes: 3,418
From: BALLS DEEP
i have a pulley if ya need it, ill mail it to ya. iirc my mazmart wp didnt come with the pulley but i have u/d ones any way
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2016 | 01:36 PM
  #18  
dubble08's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: SoCal - IE
Originally Posted by 200.mph
i have a pulley if ya need it, ill mail it to ya. iirc my mazmart wp didnt come with the pulley but i have u/d ones any way
That would be great. Mine is pretty ugly lol.

I noticed a small leak and can't exactly pinpoint it, but I think it's coming from the hose near the wp. Looks like I'll be looking for a hose kit :\ I just did a flush 2 weeks ago because the hose leading to the radiator busted so I only replaced that hose. Well the car is an '04 and I've owned it since 2011 so I guess it's time to update the cooling system.

While I'm at it, might as well replace the t-stat...

I'm a Realtor and I don't have a car so I NEED to get this done!
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2016 | 07:22 AM
  #19  
200.mph's Avatar
FULLY SEMI AUTOMATIC
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,952
Likes: 3,418
From: BALLS DEEP
pm me your info if you want the pulley
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2016 | 01:36 PM
  #20  
dubble08's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: SoCal - IE
Finally figured out it was my alternator bearings. I found my old belt, put it on, started the car, it squealed, listened with a stethoscope, and it's clearly coming from the alternator. Now I'm in market for an alternator :D
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
IamFodi
General Automotive
32
May 15, 2016 01:30 PM
Thermaltake
New Member Forum
5
May 12, 2016 04:43 PM
jtizzle88
Series I Tech Garage
3
May 4, 2016 08:54 PM
Azki23
New Member Forum
6
Apr 29, 2016 01:58 PM
DestLuck
Series I Trouble Shooting
18
Apr 24, 2016 09:34 PM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:06 PM.