Moonrover333

ok so i bought my car bout 5 mo ago and whoever had it previously decided they wanted to keep the mcguard key. thankfully they left me the registration card so i ordered one directly from mcguard. it came in last week and so today i go to pull wheel to clean up rotors. well i put key on (goes on perfectly) i try to loosen and aparently someone over tightened the crap out of it. so i put all the muscle i can into and *CRACK!* it broke the top of the lugnut itself off. so i cuss it for bout 10 min than try to somehow get the key on again no good. so i go around to other wheel and same thing. now i have 2 busted lugnuts stuck on there and a screwed up key. does anyone know a trick on how to get lugs off?

heres the passenger rear wheel




heres the driver rear



any help is good folks

automaton

Take it to a shop and have them drill the lug out and install some new ones.

Is the car still under warranty? If it is, that covers the lug nuts, too.

expo1

Looks like a job for a tire shop.

Moonrover333

yeah mazda said 36bux to remove locks


ok thats what i figured i guess i'll ask around and see what peopel can do


mcguard can bite me

two rotors

If you bought the wheel locks from a Mazda dealer,take your car to them and let them deal with the problem.The chances are your wheel will be damaged drilling off the broken locks--let Mazda pay for it.

Nubo

I keep debating whether or not to ditch the locking nuts and put the oems back on. Those pics have just about convinced me. Mazda's specs for the lug nuts are 108 lb-ft of torque which is pretty damn tight.

Terrance26

This happened on my beretta once. Get a socket just a little bit bigger that the nut get a hammer and beat the socket on it and when you get it on tight enough loosen it the socket is no good afterwards, but it worked for me.

DarkBrew

Nubo,

I was looking at these to replace the original locks because thay look harder to strip.

http://www.tiretrends.com/acc_catalo...ccessoryID=189

Right now I am running similar shaped fasteners requiring a large allen key.

Moonrover333

i bought the key from mcguard and i bought the car from a used car dealer so i guess i'm gonna have to just find away to remove it, also i tried the just a bit larger socket trick no good it won;t go on or it just breaks more
so basically i'm screwed
which sux cause i need to do brakes and i have 1 tire leaking god my luck sux

Nemesis8

iTrader: (3)

Except the locking lug nut is round on the outside... No hex to grab.

Ericok

Sears sells some special fluted sockets designed to remove damaged nuts. Don't know if they make one big enough for a lugnut.

Moonrover333

^ yeah i tried that too lol just too small

MazsportScott

Snap on sells a couple of sockets just for this problem. Someone at local tire shop probably has one.

Ike

That's for people that son't have the key I believe, not people who break the locking lugnuts.

Go48

Yeah, 108 ft-lbs is way too high. I think that number is recommended as a fix for cars experiencing the snapping noise in the front wheels. I wouldn't go beyond 80 ft-lbs.

sco

That's the point of hitting the socket on with a hammer... forcing one far enough will hopefully get you enough grip to turn it. This is exactly how theives remove these and why they are useless to stop anyone other than an opportunist with a only a standard wheel brace.

Forcing a socket on is what I'd be trying next.

Gomez

Spot-on sco. That method of lock nut removal is standard fare in the tyre shops.

Go48

Man, you Aussies stick together, but what's with this "tyre" thing?

Moonrover333

lol ok well i guess i'll try again but these are pretty hard i'll try again this weekend

rkostolni

I lost my wheel key one time and used a set of reverse threaded sockets specifically made to remove those lugs. I got my set from salvo's, but you can probably find them at just about any big autoparts store. I used an electric dewalt impact gun with those sockets and it worked great. 5 Minutes or so and I had them off.

Moonrover333

^if i can find em i'll def try that