Wig92

haha spelling doznt kount, itz da indernet.

i dont wanna drop the cash on an AP cause im not trying to get a ton of hp (im not in denial about my 4port) I would love one but dont see it in the budget for this summers pay
i wanted a catback for the sound, prob going w/ the borla instead of the RB

since im going w/ a catback i dont want a useless CAI thats just for sound
sways will get a better response than struts so im going with those. suggestions? thinkin RB's

If I can get some people to come out for an install day to help me with the sways/springs thatd be awesome! I was thinking about it but i didnt want to screw up the suspension myself. Ill pay someone back if they wanna get some brewski's

Wig92

OH and to whoever suggested wheels, i love mine
and I have tint limo on back, huper on sides. im re-tinting the sides, not dark enough

adamwzl

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shocks n springs + sways will change the handling dramatically... Also remember putting on springs is ok but eventually your stock shocks will give out a lot quicker.

mscamp02

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I think I have those wheel lol, cheapo ebay 10 spoke ones.

I would say leave the rims for now and upgrade other suspension components and once you have extra money lurk around the fs thread for a good set of used ones. Thats what I did and just scored a set of fno1r-c's

adamwzl

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^SCORE!

do what mscamp said, update the suspension first.




I got Bilstein HD's and Progress Tech springs on the way then next month will be the sways.

Wig92

good to know, ill keep some money to the side for coilovers
or i could throw out the nav screen and try for some coilovers. alot of coilovers come w/ springs dont they?? any suggestions??

and their enkei's?? there not the most expensive in the world but I dont think I'd throw that under cheapy ebay wheels

ronx8

bingo.
and since it sounds like he isnt going for a midpipe, i figured just go with the CAI and cobb tune

Wig92

haha im guessing you really like your cobb!
im mainly going for better handling,sound, and look.

i think i can invest my money better with coils and other things than trying to squeeze a few hp out. IMO

if i could have a noticeable difference w/ catback and the cobb i might consider it. but its alot of green

adamlcm

ha im still in highschool also and parents wont let me trade for a MT but i have an 07 AT and i installed a borla catback with my dad its expensive but i love the sound. my next purchase is gonna be sr motorsports underdriven pulleys. i have a summer list also haha

Wig92

I envy your extra 2 ports

J8635621

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Pulleys are useless!!!!! Cobb does more than power. It helps with engine responsiveness, injects more oil, and lowers fan temps to name a few things that don't add power. You can sell it for most of what you pay also. That's night and day better than the other mods you mentioned.

mscamp02

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haha then I have the cheapy repoped ones just like that off of ebay

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Wig92

true that. Im gonna stick with mine, although i was looking at the konig illusions w/ blue accent. but thats just some ideas haha (Love the bumper BTW)

for the cobb, could i tackle it myself or do i have to pay MM to do custom programming? I heard its worth having them do it but idk. im a noob in terms of AP's

adamwzl

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Just pay the 700 to MM and have him do it for you. Just get your mods you want on first, performance wise..

Say if you get a CAI, catback, mid pipe, bhr coils, then pay for the ap. You will see extremely noticeable performance increase even on your 04 at.

The AP is really one of the best mods to do, saves your engine, increases mpg by 1-2 depending on mods.

Now you dont have to buy everything brand new, eye ball the FS threads to get your exhaust. We might be able to get some sort of group here on a cai sometime in the summer. Should knock it down to around 260-280. Hopefully if one of our vendors choose to do so. It has been done before.... but who knows.

Get the BHR coils, I know you just replaced yours but you can sell those for around 100 if they have less than 10k miles.



Just be smart about your purchases, try for used if you can. Dont buy a used AP because youll have to pay for tuning, either from MM or someone else. Could end up costing you more in the long term. 2700 is a lot of money, you can get close to all perf parts and suspension update for that amount if you buy wisely.

Word of advice, save all the money you get then start shopping. Don't buy anything retail wise inbetween unless its a unbeatable deal. While you wait to save everything watch the FS threads. There might be a good deal on something that you cant pass up. Such as borla exhaust for 450 or set of sways for 200.

Wig92

all that was really helplfull. I'll revise my list and cut some things out so i can get a MM tuned AP. I had heard it helps engine longevity but i didnt know it was true.

as for the saving, i was planning on doing exactly that. keep my eye on everything incase theirs a killer deal but still save till the end of summer then do one crazy install day

06+starter (asap), then catback,coilovers,AP, if money left over hopefully BHR ignition kit.... its gonna be a looooong summer

adamwzl

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You necessarily do not need coilovers. There are a lot of good shock/spring combo.

Koni yellow's / stechs, Tokico d-specs / eibach pro. Bilstien HDs / progress tech. To name a few. Tons of spring and shock options that will give you the same if not better performance than coilovers in the sub 1000 range.

For a good set of coilovers will cost you a minimum of 1000+, if your not ready to spend that much then dont even bother with them.

Basicly with coilovers there are tons of different options you can set and tweak to get that perfect feel. Its a great a mod and one of the best for suspension, but also you do not want to cheap out on them. The cheaper coilover sets are mainly to lower the car, most of the time they actually give off worse handling performance than the stock shocks/springs.

If your heart is set on getting coilovers do some research and find out which ones you like the best. A forum favorite seems to be Stance GR+, but I prefer JIC FLT-TAR but they are more $$..

Really if your just want to lower the car, grab some stechs. But if you want lower + increase performance on a budget grab some stechs + koni yellows or tokico dspecs.

Wig92

hmm alot of good info there. i didnt know that about coilovers.

after some research I'm gonna prob go with megan springs/tokico D-speck shocks
as well as the borla catback. which all together is 1600 at raceroots.

one other question. for the MM tuning w/ the AP. do i have to get it, install, run diagnostic then have to wait another 6 months for their tune??? idk if i read it correctly on their website. but if i do I would think i would need to install the catback before i run the diagnostic

J8635621

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6 months is a little extreme. It would be best to put the catback on there first, but I doubt it makes much of a difference really.

adamwzl

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You should do all performance mods before installing or purchasing the ap. Reason is Jeff would really only have to tune your car once, rather then having to retune your car everytime you add a new perf mod. Then you would have to pay for the tune each time after the 6 month period.


It also makes it easier on you to not have to wait anywhere from 1-3 months on a tune each time you update your car. And makes it easier on Jeff because hes one guy doing it for 60% of the forum.


Do not get Megan springs.... they are cheapies. Get some Progress Technology Sport springs, probably the best for the price. There around 180 shipped from many of our vendors.

Wig92

ya I'm gonna do that first, it said 6 months on their website but thats prob gives them alot of extra time just incase something happens. hopefully it wont take too long.

so ill do catback first, then the AP for the diagnostic and send it in for tuning
then while im waiting for that hopefully get enough cash for shocks/springs.

for the DFW crew, I'll need some help with the suspension installs so i was wondering if maybe a whole install day would be cool. instead of just help w/ my car. idk, im just throwing that out there???

WTBRotary!

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look it up...

Id suggest coming to a meet first before posting a install day just so you get a chance to meet everyone... and im sitting on S-techs/Koni Yellows and I love them... my car is the perfect ride height and feels great, plus the Koni's are only @ 50% stiffness and they make the OEM Tokico shocks feel soft... Check out other peoples cars first before buying to see what your looking for, height wise...

J8635621

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I think you are the one that needs to look it up. Koni's at full soft are stiffer than the stock shocks btw. edit: the reason the race teams use the stock intake is not because it doesn't make more power (it makes a little), it's because it doesn't filter the air as well. They found sand in their oil pans if I remember correctly. double edit: RB rates their catback as +3.5hp. I'm sure they erred on the high side if anything.

WTBRotary!

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^^^ Thats what im saying... did I say that wrong??? I know that at full soft the Koni's are stiffer than the OEM Tokicos...

I guess i didn't elaborate enough for you

Wig92

well first off I have been, it was the one that you werent at until later cause you screwed up the time and i asked about an install day, not "posted" one. incase others wanted/needed help with installs.
Lord ET already said some people could help me out with the DIY. Ive met alot of nice people with local 8's. dont make it seem so exclusive

as for the shocks. I've seen setups with s techs and like the height, but I'm still deciding. Ill prob stick with blistein or tokico then some s techs or progress. But ill also check out the fs thread to try to find something cheaper
still have plenty of time before im looking to buy.

J8635621

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Never said you were wrong in regards to that. Just clarifying. I said you were wrong in regards to catback > intake and that the catback makes much difference at all. Trust me I have a $$$$$ catback. I wish it really made a difference lol.