Phil's 8

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I'll be there - looking forward to seeing you and the turbo a/t.

ranmcc

SRT 4 (neon), 6(crossfire), 8(300,charger,cherokee), 10(viper,ram)...

the only one I see possible is the srt 4... so please be very careful when you use the three letters only.... aside from the srt 4 your dealin' with a rowdy tire smokin' bunch...

chickenwafer

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I say we make our own! Sounds like a Paradox shop project vehicle!!

Easy_E1

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Glad to hear the project is going well Phil. I'm sure it's a whole new car to drive now.
Keep us posted after Mazdamaniac drops by.

Phil's 8

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Mazda Mainac was coerced into coming to my house to look at the tune to see if tuning would stop the three little remaining problems. In short he got the transmission to shift much smoother and the idle to become consistant. Jeff's car was overheating on the way to my house (116 air temp by the weather man) and so is mine. It seems that both turbo chargers and super chargers have the same end result. I need to drive it a few more days and see if all is solved but I will need trans work and really need additional cooling.

09Factor

Glad to hear that it's running better.

We really need better cooling for our car.

I wonder if this would work on the oil coolers as well?
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...59587_-1_10631

sosonic

What do you guys think of the mazsport cooling fan mod. I got it and thinks it works great. I have an Re-Amemiya ECU flash, but wanted to try it out. I was surprised to find it was more "aggressive" in turning on the fans.

Another idea would be to hook a fan switch and turn them on or off at will.

Curious on what you guys think about how effective either method would be for FI (I'm still NA... for now)? I see Phil's 8 has it, but appears to still have heat issue.

Phil's 8

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Yep I have the Mazsport cooling fan mod - works great and I would recommend it. Only one problem, if the outside air temp is 117 degrees F. then the street temp is considerably higher and this is radiating up and passing thru into the engine bay with a engine that already runs hot. Your not going to pass off much heat. As for the switch, Mazda Maniac has the fan switch and an over sized radiator and he still overheats on the excessive heat days. He is looking into fans for the oil coolers and I'm keeping a close eye on that. I will be adding a larger radiator and an additional oil cooler but will soon run out of places to stick them where they just will not hinder the flow of air thru the existing cooling system. Choosing to live in the desert with excessive heat and little if no humidity (5 & 6% at last check) I expect to over heat but will work toward ways to keep my ride cooler. Any and all suggestions are welcome. Turning on the fans earlier (at least in my type of heat) does not seem to be a viable alternative (we tried that). It cooled down to 108 degrees F and most of my heating problem dissipated but still lingers just a few degrees away. Hijacked my own thread but as progress is made, I will post it in the a/t section.

09Factor

I did the fan switch mod, after MM showed me. It does help but on hot days sitting in traffic the cooling system still becomes overloaded. I'm thinking on the same line as you, Phil, fan cooled oil coolers. Also a more efficient radiator would help.

Do either one of you still have the OEM tranny cooler cooling the AT fluid? OR is it bypassed and goes to a stand alone cooler?

I wonder how much the tranny fluid heats up the radiator coolant.

Clavius

To bad you couldnt just run a hose from the A/C to blow down on the coolers or radiator. I know impossible but would be interesting if it was.

Fans on the Oil Coolers is a interesting idea though suprised no one thought of it yet.

R888

sosonic, does the RE-Amemiya ECU flash works in the US version? Correct me if I m wrong thats a software or is it a limit cut?

Can you please kindly provide a link where to buy?

THanks...

Phil's 8

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I left the OEM trans cooler, that is part of the radiator, alone so it is still working. MM has a m/t so I do not believe he has a trans cooler (not sure). I'm sure that it adds to my problem. I'm running Royal Purple a/t fluid and check it all the time for tel-tale smell of over-heated fluid. I firmly believe that Mazda Maniac idea of the oil cooler fans is really going to help. That more efficient radiator and the fans may solve enough of the problem to let me go on to the next mod.

Clavius: Your's would be an acceptable (if not uncomfortable) idea if the ECU did not shut down the air conditioner when the engine temp get to high.

Clavius

Thanks Phil lol.. Again I know its a simple yet undo able mod, not to mention how the engine bay would warm the air anyways as the small duct wont have much room for insulation. Though running the plumbing could be easy just would have to cut into the firewall I believe. Again its unrealistic but figured I'd toss it out there for the hell of it lol.

To bad our rear's were not a bit wider. With a custom bodyshop you could create some air duct vents by the rear wheel wells and slap some coolers there. That or just install a custom freezer in your trunk and run some coolers to run through it back there lol.. ok I'm outa crazy/stupid idea's

Phil you have any photo's up yet or your install?? the install thread is kinda crazy to follow

shaunv74

Another thought I had was a vented hood and maybe a water sprayer bar in front of your radiator ala Evo intercooler style.

The vented hood may be a little ricey looking but I would think it would help increase overall airflow through the engine bay as well as encourage more radiant heat from the engine to escape.

I think Fans will help you in stop and go traffic but once you get up to highway speeds the relative air flow will be higher than your fans so they won't add to high speed cooling.

sosonic

I'm surprised you don't have a 2nd oil cooler, I think you should get one.

I'm also wondering if you can try some coolant tricks and synthetic oil (if you are not already using it).

For coolant I think red line water wetter or NPG may have some benefit. I use the red line water wetter, but always wondered about using Evan's NPG.

Maybe get one of those vented hoods too... somewhere down the line. I saw a real nice vented hood that I'm going to have to search to find and post when I get the chance. I thought that particular vented hood did not look ricey, but cool.



R888 you would e-mail this guy- inukai@re-amemiya.co.jp from Re-Amemiya. However, I think you might want to wait for the Cobb Accessport as its suppose to come out soon. You will have a lot more capability, allows you to flash your ECU at will, and the price would be the same.

Phil's 8

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[QUOTE=sosonic;1962861]I'm surprised you don't have a 2nd oil cooler, I think you should get one.

I'm also wondering if you can try some coolant tricks and synthetic oil (if you are not already using it).

For coolant I think red line water wetter or NPG may have some benefit. I use the red line water wetter, but always wondered about using Evan's NPG.

Maybe get one of those vented hoods too... somewhere down the line. I saw a real nice vented hood that I'm going to have to search to find and post when I get the chance. I thought that particular vented hood did not look ricey, but cool.
QUOTE = sosonic

I do have a second oil cooler. I was contemplating a third as I may have found a convenient spot for it. Currently I am using Royal Purple fluids, oil & a/t trans, I am using water wetter but it was suggested that I should shed the 50/50 antifreeze and go to pure water with water wetter. The theory is that water dissipates heat faster that antifreeze. A vented hood may become a necessity but I'm trying to avoid it at this time (that was something we did back in the 60s & 70s). I'm not familiar with Evan's NPG so I will investigate. Currently I'm hanging my hat on the larger radiator, relocation of the after-cooler, clearing up the air path and MM's oil cooling fans. All this would not be necessary if I lived in a more temperate climate.

chickenwafer

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I've thought about a vented hood, too. If you don't want a ricey one Veilside makes a vented hood that looks similar to stock with semi-hidden vents in the "rotary" triangle area of the hood and is avaliable in non CF. It's pricey, tho.

When I put a water spray kit on my intercooler, I think I might rig it up to spray on the radaitor AND both oil coolers as well.

Phil's 8

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I was thinking that the water spray would leave residue behind to plug up the radiator and/or after-cooler also make everything under the hood look bad - Have to think about how it looks also.

shaunv74

Just fill your water resevoir up with Desani.

chickenwafer

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it's straight distilled water- no residue to leave behind. The only thing that may happen is it will wash away the dirt you have on the exchangers in the first place and put that dirt somewhere else. But the water itself won't leave residues.....

Phil's 8

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You must have different dust/dirt in your area of the desert. The stuff around here turns in to cement (cliché) when you get it just a little wet (would work if there was a constant stream of water) and it's a bitch to power wash off a radiator. It's possible that distilled water will not react with the dirt but I think I'll hold off on that. The new radiator and clearing up the cooling path will be tried first. Waiting for MM to try those oil cooler fans.

One of the posters asked for pictures. I sent all I had to CRH for his use and posting. Try contacting him for the posting of the install pictures.