wcs

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Good point. My bad
Soooo hmmmmmm
No you can't raise the rev limit with the Cobb AP (no one can), you need to use the ATR software and ....
Ummm if you're an Auto owner you're screwed because Cobb never published and Auto Maps only MT


The old maps can be found here for the MT owners (since the website redo)
http://www.accessecu.com/accessport/mazda/RX-8Maps.html

I dunno if Jeff would give you a base Stock Style map (to play around with) for your Auto if you purchased the Cobb AP and his tuning package

TeamRX8

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I'm going to assume that you were half-asleep when you posted this. Why would he need to be sweet talked? It makes no sense.

redline86

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Lol I liked your first post better Team, before it vanished. At least it was funnier, just can't hide your love for a paticular vendor can you.

wcs

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LOL
Damn drunk posting

mikethemachinist

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From an email reply from Jeff:

"The AccessPORT doesn't ship with a "subscription" inherently.
The MazdaManiac Custom Calibration Service is the only way to get the
"standard" changes that you refer to below.

Through custom tuning, you will get the increased MOP rates, lower fan
turn-on points, increased rev limit, deletion of certain "check engine"
triggers and several other "tweaks" along with the main point of the service
- tuning the engine fueling MAPs for more efficient output.
The unit itself comes with no customized calibrations for the '05 A/T at
all.

When you purchase a new AccessPORT, the MazdaManiac Custom Calibration
Service is only $99.
Acquiring it at a later time, should you purchase the "unit only" option, is
$299."

Hope this helps.

Machbuster

I have a question please. Is it possible to use your own map from your ECU you use at the time of AP connection (extracted using Cobb AP), then copy it and modify just the one value like rev limiter in the software by Cobb and then flash the new MAP with only the modified limiter back in...
This would not require having a map at all if AP is able to save your own map for you. Please just anyone let me know if this is possible using Cobb AP.

My MAP is exactly what I want - very driveable, good fuel economy also... Just those RPMs needed. I would only thing about using it for +500 Rev increase before cut-off. I need that extra 500rpm (no problem for the engine at all imo - I have manual 4 Port 5 Speed EU version).

I am in a different situation - I am from Czech republic and I have a European 4Port 5 Speed version (called Standard Power - the High Power is your US version manual 6 speed - in Europe we had those 2 versions manuals available with no automatic option at all - that automatic 6 port 212hp was available only later for a short year when facelifted RX-8 version II was available in 2009).
I would really like to have that extra +500RPM only before cut-off. Would not use it much and I know it would go with no power gain in those extra rpms. It is that extra time to shift what I sometimes need and also you go 98-102-104-106 kmh exactly when you getting too close to that cut-off ( "magic" 100 km per hour area :-) ).

wcs

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Do you already have a Cobb AP?
Are you running a custom tune?

If you mean you want to save the OEM ECU map and modify that data then "no" you can't.
Cobb gives you a way to save the OEM ECU Map however as far as I can tell you can't do anything with it as it's an encrypted ".rom" file that only the Cobb Engineers can use.

Cobb does give you a Stock Style map you could modify. But I don't know if it's the same as the OEM ECU Map.

X7rotor

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I dont think those 500 rpms will help much on the 4 port motor. I dont think it breathes more air in then it does the 6 port

Machbuster

Thanks for a prompt reply. That solves everything - original rom encrypted uneditable. Custom can be edited but it also varies by rom type and man has to do homework to make sure.
I do not have a Cobb myself but friends in Prague do have it and are pretty advanced in RX-8s - KamikazeRacing project - nicely tuned RX-8 certified for the street - http://www.kamikaze-rx8.com/en/.
I am running a custom tuned ROM (slightly modified only for REVI intake by RACING BEAT Europe). I thought that the original "rom" is not editable - I will find out if my custom one is editable.

Machbuster

I know and agree - it is just for autocross and our small track use - I need to drive in speeds which are exactly in between 2nd and 3rd gear and sometimes even if I am trying to avoid it I do touch the cut-off and that is of course a bad thing :-(. This 5´00 RPM would do nothing in dynamic way just help me avoid cut off I do accidentaly sometimes hit (not very often...) That is it - just give you some time. I know that it would not certainly be the BEST for the engine but no big harm for the renesis - no risk of overeving because I am never talking about some crazy 8800 on 4 port. Only slightly and no power motivation at all.
But what is in my oppinion certain - no power gain BUT 4 port is better suited to limit raise in these 7500s lower rpms than the 6port's is when raising +500 the limiter in those 9000s region.

bse50

If you think project kamikaze is advanced in rx8 tuning you might as well jump off of a bridge believing you can fly.
I wouldn't mind moving from a Racing Beat base tune (just a reflash with no feedback on what it does) to a fully tuned pcm (accessport and the likes). You're limiting yourself to just one slice of pie while you could have the whole thing
If you like how your car drives now you'll simply like it better after having it actually tuned.

Machbuster

Do not take it too literaly and too serious - And NO I am not jumping .
And the web is also very OLD, now they do some 3 and 4 rotor work etc. so today they are really doing what here is considered as much more advanced modifications.
I also urge you to think in "our" small country scales - we are so small that even this was considered OK back then. Very few RX cars here... Sure sure you are all here RX GODS so sorry for just trying to discuss things ... be nice please

And about RB - I had some feedback and graphs shown and actualy chose one I wanted. It looked suited for my configuration (4Port EU 5 Speed with the Revi intake)... But who knows what is true Graphs can be shown allways... Good is that it seems to drive great and after 2 seasons I am driving with this config my compression tests are stil quite great (normal depreciation IMO - OK From 91% of Factory to 86% factory values = Looks good). So that is why I would like to keep it and add those +500 rpm to the limiter.

And about the "Whole package" I know it would be great to have it all but here I would have absolutely no feedback and no one is actually here doing the GARAGE WORK if you know what I mean. And I am not confident enough to do this on my own - too much school ruined my manual abilities . Also I have the 4Port 5 Speed so problem with that too - Racing Beat Europe did some work with this EU version so that is why I went for their offer.
I have some nice mods now REVi intake and REV8 catback, Racing Beat Stabilizers and endlinks, DBA T3 brake rotors, Bilstein shocks from 2011 R3 RX-8, newest N3R3 starter etc. All usable and nicely installed on my 2005 so these modifications are enough for me - The ECU modifications honestly scares me - Afraid to be left alone with no feedback and Cobb support for the product...

bse50

I'm italian so don't worry, i know the situation. There's nobody working on rotaries here that actually knows what's going on... they just parrot old notions and work with a monkey see-monkey do mentality.
I have my car tuned with an AccessPORT and can tell you that Jeff did an excellent job, so good that I don't feel the need to attempt to tune it myself. I would be more worried about running on an untuned engine on the stock flash than using a tuned rom. Mazda screwed up big time with the tuning, the various pollution regulations and useless environmentalists really sticked a fork in the tune
Before considering those random Kamikaze guys i'd send higgi a couple of lines, he's from the czech republic. Hell of a guy with a hell of a car

tigersilhouette

Just to clear up some mis-information, if you have a 4 port 4 speed automatic (04-05) or the 6 port 6 speed automatic (06-08), Cobb does offer Access Tuner Race that will allow you to tune the car yourself. I have been running my 6 speed auto with an 8500 RPM rev limit for over a year. It will be just fine. Make sure you have fresh fluid in the transmission before you decide to up the rev limit. Preventative maintenance is the most important thing to do before you push the car beyond the stock specifications.

-Lawrence

Machbuster

No no, I have a EUROPEAN SPEC only 4port 5speed MANUAL one - that is the trouble. We had in Czech for sale only MANUALs - 4Port 5speed manual called standart power (192hp) or 6Port 6speed manual called HiPower (232hp).
So special case 4port but manual.
But Racing Beat Europe (based in England, they had that MAP for this type. I am talking about it before...).
6Port 6Speed Automatic should be a great improvement over the older automatic 4port 4speed, shouldn't it? With that proper and careful maintenance it should run like flawllesly.

bse50

Just pm higgi already!

Machbuster

COOL - good to know. So now I only need to know if AccessPORT is OK with the 4port 5speed EU manual and then if yes I would probably go for it too.
Thanks for the tip - I contaced higgi too. But Kamikaze is OK, I know the guy and he is around RX-8s all the time - not random at all
higgi probably more experineced with RX and many different cars too but considering RX-8 I would not be afraid to hand it to kamikaze really...

bse50

The accessport should work with a 4port-5speed car. I know of a guy in bulgaria who runs a turbo 4port-5speed tuned by mazdamaniac
I'm glad I could help you!