Notices
Series I AT-Specific Performance Mods Discuss engine and transmission modifications for your AT equipped RX-8

Atkins solid corner Seals

Old 05-31-2017, 01:52 PM
  #1  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Kasimir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Germany
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Atkins solid corner Seals

Low compression with Atkins solid corner Seals ???


Kasimir...😉
Old 05-31-2017, 02:51 PM
  #2  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,784
Received 452 Likes on 366 Posts
Sounds about right. OEM only, always.
Old 05-31-2017, 03:54 PM
  #3  
Boosted Kiwi
iTrader: (2)
 
Brettus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Y-cat-o NZ
Posts: 20,521
Received 1,489 Likes on 839 Posts
Originally Posted by Kasimir
Low compression with Atkins solid corner Seals ???


Kasimir...😉
Are you asking or telling ?
Old 06-01-2017, 12:29 PM
  #4  
No respecter of malarkey
iTrader: (25)
 
TeamRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,718
Received 2,005 Likes on 1,634 Posts
Originally Posted by Brettus
Are you asking or telling ?



Old 06-02-2017, 02:04 PM
  #5  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Kasimir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Germany
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That was a question
Old 06-02-2017, 02:06 PM
  #6  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,784
Received 452 Likes on 366 Posts
What was a question?
Old 06-02-2017, 02:13 PM
  #7  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Loki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Montreal
Posts: 7,703
Received 951 Likes on 829 Posts
Can you use more than 3 words to explain your question?
The following users liked this post:
Jedi54 (06-21-2017)
Old 06-06-2017, 02:36 PM
  #8  
No respecter of malarkey
iTrader: (25)
 
TeamRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,718
Received 2,005 Likes on 1,634 Posts
Originally Posted by Loki
Can you use more than 3 words to explain your question?


Yes, no, maybe, unlikely
Old 06-21-2017, 05:55 PM
  #9  
New Member
 
Zachariah83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Yes, no, maybe, unlikely
ok so getting back on track, I've been looking alot into atkins corner seals. I just built my renesis and after it struggling to start I decided to check the compression. I'm getting like 50 psi to each face. From all that I've looked Inot, I found that the solid corner seals are almost designed as a universal 13b seal. Not a renesis specific. I've found multiple people I think the same problem. It seams the apex dosent sit in the corner seals the same as the OEM seals. I've contacted atkins and they said
"as far as we know, there are no problems with our solid corner seals."
I plan to tear my engine back down and replace the corner seals with OEM and follow up on this post. Hopefully we can clear up some of the questions with this topic. Let me know if you have had a similar experience or know what I may be doing wrong or right.
Old 06-21-2017, 06:00 PM
  #10  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,784
Received 452 Likes on 366 Posts
That sounds about what I would expect to hear from Atkins. Lot's of variables here, but solid corner seals are absolutely pointless.

Last edited by 9krpmrx8; 06-22-2017 at 11:01 AM.
Old 06-25-2017, 02:22 PM
  #11  
New Member
 
Zachariah83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Makes sense. The only time I've seen the OEM seals fail was a set that cracked in half but that was because Someone assembly the engine with a way too tight clearance and then turbo it. But I agree, there really isn't a reason to change from OEM in most cases. I still have yet to tear it down and swap them out. Then I'll be back to show the results so hopefully more don't run into the same problem as I did.
Old 07-07-2017, 12:36 PM
  #12  
Registered
 
strokercharged95gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Tampa
Posts: 1,023
Received 200 Likes on 156 Posts
Tell us more about your rebuild. Corner seals would not be the first thing that comes to mind with low compression.... Did you reuse, replace, or buy new rotor housings? what about the plates and every other seal that you replaced in that motor?
Old 07-09-2017, 05:29 PM
  #13  
Original Turbo 'd Auto !!
 
09Factor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Surprise its Az!
Posts: 2,126
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by strokercharged95gt
Tell us more about your rebuild. Corner seals would not be the first thing that comes to mind with low compression.... Did you reuse, replace, or buy new rotor housings? what about the plates and every other seal that you replaced in that motor?
^ This. Inquiring minds would like to know.
Old 07-22-2017, 04:22 AM
  #14  
Registered
 
Redrotarycar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Rotors apex seals grove might be off spec
Old 04-14-2021, 12:11 AM
  #15  
New Member
 
Zoomin13bt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Any update? I'm about to replace my corner seals from atkins solids to oem soon. 80psi on all faces but its an 04 automatic rx8 . Once it reaches operated temp it dies on idle. I can drive it around the block very smoothly but once rpms drop it wants to die. And restart is a pain also, only 5 miles on rebuild. Plus auto so can't push start.
Old 04-14-2021, 12:00 PM
  #16  
No respecter of malarkey
iTrader: (25)
 
TeamRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,718
Received 2,005 Likes on 1,634 Posts
there’s no update; it’s still a really bad idea to not use the OE Renesis corner seals and springs
The following users liked this post:
nlsolja123 (01-11-2023)
Old 04-14-2021, 12:09 PM
  #17  
Registered
 
Redrotarycar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
FL Oem corner seal for sure..

Its been a long time since i come here.
hey man, use oem corner seals. Make sure everything else is withing spec and you should be good..
in the rx7 community we also see a compression drop with those corner seals.
Old 04-14-2021, 06:08 PM
  #18  
Registered
 
MincVinyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: New England
Posts: 373
Received 117 Likes on 98 Posts
Originally Posted by Zoomin13bt
Any update? I'm about to replace my corner seals from atkins solids to oem soon. 80psi on all faces but its an 04 automatic rx8 . Once it reaches operated temp it dies on idle. I can drive it around the block very smoothly but once rpms drop it wants to die. And restart is a pain also, only 5 miles on rebuild. Plus auto so can't push start.
I can agree with many of the posts about issues with the solid corner seals. Had low compression with the atkins solid corners and cryo apex seals. Got treated poorly by atkins after spending 1500 or so on a rebuild kit and their seals and had 40-60psi compression. Then I got oem seals and I got 100-110psi compression(I was dumb and didn't get new rotors but plan on doing a rew build soon anyways).

Honestly if you haven't invested in anything and are looking to keep the engine oem I would highly suggest just getting a reman engine. Its around $4500 shipped for a built engine vs dealing with ordering all new seals, rotors, housings, seal kit, irons? and then potentially running into issues with the home build............Just like how I did. Definitely a good learning experience, at quite the cost.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mukurosfc3s
West For Sale/Wanted
0
07-18-2019 10:01 AM
Shrike
New Member Forum
6
11-27-2017 07:26 PM
IRPerformance
RX-8 Parts For Sale/Wanted
2
05-09-2016 10:26 PM
GeoffJ
Australia/New Zealand Forum
28
03-07-2009 11:46 PM
JaiDaJoker
Series I Tech Garage
31
02-18-2009 11:17 AM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Atkins solid corner Seals



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:27 AM.